Not a good sign.
That climate bs was easier and cheaper to implement than running drugs. The gov’t is trying to go legit.
LOL ... "I'm in solitary ... just a man and his thoughts ..."
no first amendment in the UK, and thanks to McCain/Feingold the beginning of the end of it here too
Climategate2 story ? What’s next Star Trek bloggers ?
not the blogger. The blogger was simply the first one to report the existence of the CG2 file.
Furthermore, he had received a message the requested that he retain all his information and to “I not disclose the existence of this request...” (see http://noconsensus.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/wordpress-preservation-request-1.pdf)
The police sounded like they were pretty tech savvy. He should have tried to hide a toaster and see if they would have seized that also. Something like, “don’t touch that radiant wave broadband router there, it’s very delicate and shouldn’t be moved”.
Blogging in defiance of the Empire!
So apparently this is the new whistle blower law. Seize the computers of anyone who helps the whistle blower.
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Noblesse Oblige says:
Rest easy: This is mostly for show to demonstrate that the gov takes the leaks seriously. But in reality they do not really want to apprehend the culprit(s) because they would need to charge them with some crime or other. This would likely produce a trial of the century in which the defendant would be branded as the worst criminal since (fill in the blank), while being hailed as hero by skeptics aroudn the world. Famous lawyers would rush to be chosen to defend the case. And here is the rub: The media would be forced to cover the case, and this is the last thing the gov wants.
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tallbloke says:
They were polite and promised to return the kit after cloning the disks.
They say I am not a suspect for any crime.
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pat says:
Tallbloke
concerned for you, but wonder about the legality of the police action.
14 Dec: ScienceMag: Ralph Hall ( (R-TX) Speaks Out on Climate Change
by Jeffrey Mervis
The chair of the House of Representatives science committee doesnt think much of the investigations exonerating the scientists involved in the 2009 Climategate e-mail scandal. He also believes that climate scientists are driven by hopes of financial gain in producing reports that provide evidence for global warming
Ralph Hall in a statement to ScienceInsider expanding on his comments to the NJ:
Recently released emails highlight many of the same concerns that initially emerged in the 2009 ClimateGate emails a small cadre of scientists coordinating advocacy rather than communicating uncertainty; manipulating journals rather than facilitating peer review; and cherry-picking data rather than following transparency principles, which is a central tenant (sic) of science. While several groups have investigated the actions associated with the ClimateGate emails, these straw-man reviews failed to address the real underlying allegations that continue to undermine the integrity of those involved
http://news.sciencemag.org/scienceinsider/2011/12/ralph-hall-speaks-out-on-climate.html
Very bad. BTTT. Will bounce tomorrow.
Very important BTTT.
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UPDATE2: 12/15/9AM It seems that the story has gone viral on blogs. Four skeptic blogs are in the top ten of all WordPress blogs today. While Ive seen 2 at a time on CG1 and CG2, four has never happened before. This is from my wordpress.com dashboard:
Global Warming on Free Republic
This is what happens to you if you violate teh left-wing orthodoxy.
The GlobalWarmists are powerful.
A ton of money has flowed over the years for research to support the AGW argument. Practically no government money has been spent on opposing research.
Careers in science and government have been built around the AGW myth. This has gone on for about thirty years, so it is fully incorporated into government, journalism, “science”, “scientific” journalism, academia.
If not for the internet, they would have succeeded in steamrolling all of the western governments into submitting to UN control, a huge “spread the wealth” scam, and the socialist’s dream of government running industry.
So now, when they feel threatened by the sources on the internet, they are out to silence them, either by legal action or by intimidation. To them, it’s a matter of survival.
I’m sure they have visions of a rapidly shrinking empire as AGW skepticism has increased. How can climatologists pay for all their glorious research, all of the field instruments, the lab work, the computer modeling, the flitting about the globe to attend various conferences. And kiss all of those awards goodbye. All of that recognition. Those honoraria for speaking engagements.
They’ll have to give up their prime offices, fire their large staffs, and move back into a janitor’s closet. At parties, when they tell people they are climatologists, it will just elicit yawns.