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1 posted on 12/11/2011 5:35:07 PM PST by NeinNeinNein
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what a maroon


194 posted on 12/11/2011 9:51:14 PM PST by GeronL (The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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To: NeinNeinNein
In fact, I would argue greater cooperation among individuals leads to more prosperity and more overall happiness.

Then you would argue wrongly. Communism destroys the will to work in people because the people who don't want to work, don't, and the few that do end up supporting those that don't. Hence the whole system caves in after a time. It has happened over and over.

The oldest argument for communism is the one you stated: That it just hasn't been done right yet. Each new group that tries it comes up with that lame excuse and each time it fails in the same way. After a few thousand or so times it is tried and failed you would think people like you would wise up.

195 posted on 12/11/2011 9:53:28 PM PST by calex59
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I’ve been in three Communist countries, lived in one. I know what evil is and Communism is definitely evil. Just ask the citizens who live under Communism; they’re afraid to talk about it - is that cool with you? If it is, YOU have a problem.


196 posted on 12/11/2011 9:53:43 PM PST by Rembrandt (.. AND the donkey you rode in on.)
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197 posted on 12/11/2011 10:24:55 PM PST by Thunder90 (Fighting for truth and the American way... http://citizensfortruthandtheamericanway.blogspot.com/)
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Communism is about cooperation and good will.

Bullsh!t. It's about absolutely nothing more than a glorified something-for-nothing scheme hatched by crazed "intellectuals" and power-mad politicians to sucker-in support from the lazy, the depressed, the frightened and the gullible.

"This right to life, this right to liberty, and this right to pursue one’s happiness is unabashedly individualistic, without in the slightest denying at the same time our thoroughly social nature. It’s only that our social relations, while vital to us all, must be chosen -­ that is what makes the crucial difference." -- Prof. Tibor R. Machan

"...individualism is not antithetical to community. Rather, it can involve free association and a belief in an over-arching harmony of interests. In a free socety, individuals join with others because of love and mutual benefit, not because they are programmed or coerced." -- Prof. Clifford Thies

"One byproduct of individualism is benevolence -- a general attitude of good will towards one's neighbors and fellow human beings. Benevolence is impossible in a society where people violate each others' rights."[as they do in institutionalized communism] -- Glenn Woiceshyn

"State-mandated compassion produces, not love for ones fellow man, but hatred and resentment. The breakdown of 'basic civility' and the rise of the welfare state occur concurrently." -- Lizard

"Paradoxical as it may seem, men and women who are free to pursue individualism and material wealth turn out to be the most compassionate of all." -- Financial Times, London, Nov 22, 2001

"The number of poor people who can't afford food for their children is a lot smaller than it used to be -- thanks to capitalism. Capitalism didn't create malnutrition, it reduced it. The globalization of capitalism from 1950 to the present has increased annual average income in the world to $7,000 from $2,000. Contrary to popular legend, poor countries grew at about the same rate as the rich ones. This growth gave us the greatest mass exit from poverty in world history.
"The parts of the world that are still poor are suffering from too little capitalism. Foreign direct investment in Africa today, although rising, amounts to only 1% of global flows. That's because the environment for private business in Africa is still hostile. There are some industry and country success stories in Africa, but not enough." -- WILLIAM R. EASTERLY

"To embrace a collectivist system ... and thereby jeopardize sustained economic growth, inevitably misallocate scarce resources, and almost necessarily perpetuate destitution, hardly merits moral acclaim. Indeed, intellectuals in general and church leaders in particular who bewail the continued existence of poverty absolutely defined, and who state that they yearn for a world in which the hungry are fed, the naked clothed, and the destitute housed, yet who ceaselessly undermine the very system which, to date, has best done what they claim to value most, are, surely, moral imbeciles." -- The Reverend Doctor John K. Williams

America is the most generous, charitable civilization in all of human history. And the reason is: its recognizing the value of each person and each family -- and its letting them keep the fruits of their labor for the most part -- and trade peacefully with whomever THEY choose to -- results in REAL good will.

198 posted on 12/11/2011 10:54:34 PM PST by FreeKeys ("Do not ever consider Collectivists as 'sincere but deluded idealists'." -- Ayn Rand)
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You are a special kind of FAIL.


199 posted on 12/11/2011 11:13:13 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Perry Christmas & Happy Newt Year!)
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Since you seem to have skipped over the 100+ million murdered by communists, we can try basic philosophy.

Contrary to your assertion, Communism is coercion.

Capitalism is about the free exchange of goods and services. People will do this without coercion in their own interest.

Communism requires force to make people “work for the common good.” Otherwise, people will be as lazy as they can get away with and nothing will get done. As the old Russian saying went “They pretend to pay us and we pretend to work.”

Worse, it has been proven that the needs of people can not be anticipated by a bureaucracy, while capitalism will move to meet these needs simply to make a profit.

Oh, and in Communism, if the “common good” requires your death, you’re dead, as it millions upon millions of victims have found out...


203 posted on 12/12/2011 4:04:12 AM PST by Little Ray (FOR the best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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Here are the names of a couple of communism’s heroes. Stalin and Mao. I’m sure that you can find out what they did to their fellow man. Made Hitler look like a piker.


208 posted on 12/12/2011 7:03:50 AM PST by Scotsman will be Free (11C - Indirect fire, infantry - High angle hell - We will bring you, FIRE)
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Not really worth the time reading your opinion, but here is something for you later.


212 posted on 12/12/2011 9:13:51 AM PST by Arrowhead1952 (Dear God, thanks for the rain, but please let it rain more in Texas. Amen.)
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I think it’s fine for commune’s and small groups to practice communism... what I don’t like is the idea of being coerced into it.
It really falls into the sphere of respecting an individuals free will.


214 posted on 12/12/2011 9:18:26 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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This guys is like my testicals - they have been cut off from the collective, they are not needed anymore!


216 posted on 12/12/2011 9:31:27 AM PST by right way right (What's it gonna take?)
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2819093/posts

This post appears right before your post, and explains it in terms understandable by all.


217 posted on 12/12/2011 10:12:30 AM PST by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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I'm genuinely curious why conservatives think Communism is so evil.

Um...maybe the quarter of a billion dead folks murdered by Communist governments?

Maybe because when the state owns everything all the people are just serfs working for a huge corporation that never needs to share its profits with them?

Maybe because (since you're such a good Christian) communism as envisioned by Marx and Engels is dedicated to the destruction of religious faith?

How many more do ya need?

218 posted on 12/12/2011 11:47:15 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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BTW, have you ever met anyone who has survived the Cambodian killing fields? I have. If I had not been a hater of communism before then, I would have been one after that.

Did you know, wonderful good Christian guy, that less than 200 of our brothers and sisters in Cambodia were left alive out of tens of thousandswhen the Khmer Rouge got finished? Every place communism takes hold the people who love Christ are tortured and killed. That should be enough for you all by itself.


221 posted on 12/12/2011 11:53:47 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (I want a hippopotamus for Christmas! Only a hippopotamus will do!)
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I'm genuinely curious why conservatives think Communism is so evil.

Oh, that's easy. Communism denies the value and worth of the individual. When the wants, needs, and the rights of the individual are placed behind the demands of "the state", freedom cannot exist, and regardless of whatever else it can be called, when people are not free, they are slaves. There is no in between.

229 posted on 12/12/2011 12:32:30 PM PST by kevkrom (Separation of Business and State)
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“Communism was perverted by third world despots and was never implemented fully in its true form.”

Yeah, we just need the right fascist to execute the wonderful system.....


233 posted on 12/13/2011 1:27:47 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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