[Former Proud Canadian]

For many years there were four members of the nuclear club, and nuclear war was basically unthinkable. Then China and India joined and, for a time, the staus quo remained.

Even when Israel and South Africa joined the club, nothing really changed. South Africa eventually relinquished their weapons.

Now Pakistan and North Korea have no problem rattling sabres and threatening their neighbors. Iran can't wait to use nukes to destroy Israel. I have no doubt that regimes like these will use nuclear weapons against their neighbors. Additionally they will put those weapons into the hands of surrogates. This will, of course, result in their own destruction.

[BenLurkin]

I fear that many good people will perish along with those (such as North Korea and Pakistan) who so richly deserve an atomic apocalypse.

(And call me cynical but I have a hard time believing that South Africa relinquished all their weapons.)