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To: Kevmo
LENR is contributing to particle physics research also. But not on your dime. LENR is better than Tokomak in that respect. It’s also better in the respect that it has generated only a max 6MJ per run while LENR experiments generate an AVERAGe of 100MJ per run.

Isn't 100MJ equal to less than a barrel of oil? 1GJ is equal to the energy in one barrel of oil.1

Where do you get these numbers?

1: Thanks to Wiki...

64 posted on 11/29/2011 9:08:54 AM PST by Lx (Do you like it, do you like it. Scott? I call it Mr. and Mrs. Tennerman chili.)
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To: Lx

Where do you get these numbers?
***If it weren’t for the seagulls, FR could have a proper FAQ on LENR.

The bar that cold fusion should be compared to isn’t garage experiments, it’s $10B Tokomak reactors that produce less than 100th as many Joules as these LENR experiments.

That’s the thing about cold fusion — the bar keeps getting raised for it while the bar for plasma fusion gets lowered.
According to Jed Rothwell, the excess heat experiment has been repeated worldwide roughly 14,000 times successfully according to an estimate by J. He (Front. Phys. China, 2007). There are 4,700 authors in his database. He says at least 2,000 have authored or co-authored experimental papers. He has counted major journal peer-reviewed papers reporting excess heat — more than 150 papers with more than 300 authors and co-authors in 50 publications. There are about 150 other papers describing other nuclear effects such as tritium and neutrons. They far outnumber the negative reports. In 1989 there were 20 negative peer-reviewed papers with 135 authors and coauthors. The reasons these early efforts failed are now well understood. There are also roughly 2,500 non peer reviewed papers including some excellent papers published by the U.S. Navy, Mitsubishi, Amoco, the Japanese Nat. Synchrotron Lab., Los Alamos, BARC and others that are much better than most peer-reviewed papers, in his opinion. You can read ~500 papers at LENR-CANR.org or at a university or national laboratory library. Most of the papers at LENR-CANR.org are copied from conference proceedings and from the libraries at Los Alamos and Georgia Tech, with permission. Plus he has copies of an additional 1,100 peer-reviewed papers that he cannot get permission to upload, regrettably.
http://www.scientificblogging.com/news_rel...e_if_you_say_so

More papers:
http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/reports/S...tedPapers.shtml

A typical cold fusion experiment using Seebeck calorimeter
costs roughly $50,000 including all equipment. Some have produced 50 to 300 megajoules in one run. They have achieved the two goals hot fusion has failed to reach for 60 years: breakeven and full ignition.

The Tokamak Fusion Test Reactor (TFTR) at the Princeton University Plasma Physics Laboratory, U.S. Department of Energy cost “about a billion dollars” to construct and $70 million a year to operate. It produced 6 megajoules in one experiment, the world record run for hot fusion.

40 posted on Tuesday, March 23, 2010 11:29:59 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)


90 posted on 11/29/2011 8:13:36 PM PST by Kevmo (When a thing is owned by everybody nobody gives value to it. Communism taught us this. ~A. Rossi)
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