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To: Kevmo
it is one thing to *believe* something is false based on your assumptions and quite another to be able to *prove* beyond a reasonable doubt that it is false

The scientific method cannot be used to prove falsity beyond a reasonable doubt, as any scientist knows.

The question regarding the supposed generation of energy in excess of input with this device is not "is it false?" but rather "is it reproducible?"

Since there is no effort on the part of Mr. Rossi to subject his claims to reproduction, who the hell knows what it means?

37 posted on 10/31/2011 11:58:07 AM PDT by Jim Noble (To live peacefully with credit-based consumption and fiat money, men would have to be angels.)
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To: Kevmo; Jim Noble

Kevmo, Jim Noble hit the nail squarely on the head.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof; nevertheless, despite the extraordinary nature of Rossi’s claims, he has taken great lengths to ensure that it’s impossible for other researchers to reproduce his results.

Rossi’s actions are not the actions of a scientist, they are the actions of a scam artist.


42 posted on 10/31/2011 3:47:24 PM PDT by dinodino
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To: Jim Noble

“is it reproducible?”
***The Pons-Fleischmann effect has been replicated more than 14,700 times. Then Rossi came along with his catalyzer that made it more reproducible.


56 posted on 10/31/2011 7:11:00 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Jim Noble

Since there is no effort on the part of Mr. Rossi to subject his claims to reproduction, who the hell knows what it means?
***It means that when the first customer comes forward, almost all these points become moot and it is ‘real’. Otherwise, it’s just a countdown to a proven fraud. Either way, all this reproducibility and peer review stuff is being ignored for the useless procedure it is.


57 posted on 10/31/2011 7:13:55 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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