CDC now calling U.S. households and demanding child immunization records

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[Scythian]

(NaturalNews) The U.S. Centers for Disease Control, which has been comprehensively exposed as a vaccine propaganda organization promoting the interests of drug companies, is now engaged in a household surveillance program that involves calling U.S. households and intimidating parents into producing child immunization records. As part of what it deems a National Immunization Survey (NIS), the CDC is sending letters to U.S. households, alerting them that they will be called by "NORC at the University of Chicago" and that households should "have your child's immunization records handy when answering our questions." (See copies of the letter, below.)

This NIS vaccine compliance program is revealed in a letter being sent to U.S. households by Edward J. Sondik, PhD, the director of the National Center for Health Statistics at the CDC. The CDC, you may recall, was instrumental in pushing the false swine flu pandemic scare and encouraging governments to order billions of dollars worth of vaccines from drug companies. Following this marketing fraud, the former head of the CDC, Dr. Julie Gerberding, went on to accept the lucrative job as the president of Merck's global vaccine division (http://www.naturalnews.com/027789_D...). One of the CDC's top researchers who worked under Gerberding, Dr. Poul Thorsen, was later indicted by a federal grand jury for allegedly stealing grant money and using it to buy luxury cars and motorcycles (http://www.naturalnews.com/032216_T...).

Now the CDC is bullying parents across the USA to comply with child immunization surveillance programs by calling their home phones and asking them to produce child immunization records.

NaturalNews has acquired a copy of the letter being sent by the CDC, which you can view in these two images:
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Vaccine compliance tracking

"Your phone number was chosen randomly by computer," explains the letter, which goes on to say that the CDC will use your information to generate a map of vaccine compliance -- no doubt to later target low-compliance areas with increased vaccination propaganda or even court-ordered immunization mandates like the one we witnessed in Maryland (http://www.naturalnews.com/022242_m...).

"It is important for us to interview every household we call to get a complete picture of your area's immunization rates," the CDC letter explains. "Your answers to the NIS will provide information to help improve the nation's health now and in the years ahead," it continues. Which means, of course, that this information will be used to push more vaccines onto more infants by targeting areas with low vaccine compliance rates, such as African American neighborhoods which are rightly skeptical of government's claims about vaccines.

Note that in this letter, the CDC admits it is using this information to track vaccine compliance at the local level. On top of that, the NORC.org website openly admits this is all about public health surveillance, saying: "the NIS is one of the largest telephone surveys in the nation and its data are considered the gold standard for public health surveillance on immunization rates."

Ever notice how these organizations are so aggressive at tracking vaccination rates but they care nothing about tracking rates of autism? Have you wondered why they aren't calling U.S. households and asking parents whether their children became autistic after receiving vaccines? (Gee, maybe they don't want to know the answer to that question...)

Public health surveillance = interrogations by phone

Once your private home phone is called as part of this vaccine surveillance and tracking program, you will be essentially interrogated over the phone about your vaccine immunization compliance:

"Respondents are asked a series of questions about the vaccinations received by selected children (including recommended seasonal flu vaccines)," says NORC. And after that, NORC will request permission to acquire your child's immunization records from your doctor!

"Respondents are also asked for permission to contact the children's health providers for the sole purpose of obtaining immunization records, providing an important supplement to the household report," NORC explains. Yes, once you answer the interrogation questions on the phone, they will then go straight to your doctor to acquire vaccine records there in order to determine whether you were lying on the phone.

See our screen capture of the NORC.org website which admits all this:
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The original source of this is: http://www.norc.org/Research/Projec... (but they will no doubt change their page after this NaturalNews story goes live, which is why we posted a screen shot).

It's all admittedly a way to increase vaccination rates of low-income children

"NORC then sends an Immunization History Questionnaire via mail to these health providers," it says. And once the data are compiled: "These data are used by the CDC and state and local public health agencies to monitor the potential for disease outbreaks at the community level and to allocate resources for the Vaccines for Children (VFC) Program, which ensures that all children in the U.S. have access to vaccinations regardless of financial status."

In other words, the CDC, working on behalf of the drug companies, wants to make sure that all children are vaccinated even if their parents can't afford it. That's government being "helpful" to its slaves, you see. "Public health" has been so perverted and distorted under the government / pharmaceutical collusion regime that instead of teaching people how to prevent disease with nutritious foods, vitamin D and low-cost natural cures, the government is all about injecting infants with vaccines, irradiating women's breasts with mammograms, and outlawing dietary supplements while claiming to be working under the label of "public health."

And now, thanks to the police state tactics being increasingly used by the federal government to enforce vaccines even at gunpoint (as we saw in Maryland), it appears we are about to enter a phase where it's not just TSA reaching down your pants, but CDC running vaccine surveillance and compliance tracking in order to make sure no one goes unvaccinated in America.

Enhanced government surveillance for teen vaccination rates

This vaccine compliance tracking and surveillance program is also being used to target teens and to push for increased vaccination rates using flu vaccines. As NORC admits on its website: "In response to the need for improved surveillance on teen immunization rates, CDC expanded the use of the NIS sampling frame in 2008 to screen households for the presence of teens between 13-17 years of age."

But flu vaccines are scientifically useless and simply don't work on 99 out of 100 people who receive them (http://www.naturalnews.com/029641_v...). Besides, flu vaccines only contain DNA proteins from last year's flu strains, meaning that even if you believe flu vaccines work, they would only be useful to time travelers who go back in time to the previous year's flu season. And this is all in addition to the fact that flu vaccines actually weaken the immune system and make you more vulnerable to future flu infections. (http://www.naturalnews.com/028538_s...)

Flu vaccines also cause seizures (http://www.naturalnews.com/029334_f...), vomiting, fevers and other dangerous or even deadly side effects (http://www.naturalnews.com/029586_A...).

Ties to the military industrial complex

Under a heading called "Advances in Survey Research," NORC adds something that should raise some red flags among privacy advocates, saying "In collaboration with CDC, NORC has spearheaded an ambitious research program to identify best practices for sampling landline and cell telephones and develop valid statistical approaches for weighting and estimation."

Cell phones? Ambitious research programs? This only begins to make sense when you realize that the CDC awarded $5 billion grant money to computer surveillance and weapons contractors to develop aggressive public health (vaccine compliance) surveillance programs (http://www.irconnect.com/noc/press/...). Northrup Grumman is a weapons manufacturer that has been caught by the U.S. State Department selling technology secrets to the Russians and violating international arms trafficking laws by selling computer guidance systems to Israel and China, among other countries (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northr...).

If this seems surprising, remember that the Institute of Medicine, another key propaganda mouthpiece for the vaccine industry, is funded in part by the Department of Defense and the Department of Homeland Security. It also receives money from junk food companies and the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, an aggressive vaccine-pushing non-profit. This was all exposed in an exclusive NaturalNews article available here: http://www.naturalnews.com/033455_I...

What's clear from all this is that today's government-run "public health" fiasco is really all about the following:

Vaccines - Surveillance - Compliance - Tracking - Military - Weapons

This is all being conducted like a military operation, not a compassionate public health initiative that genuinely seeks to save the lives of children. If the CDC really wanted to save lives, it would aggressively promote vitamin D, which can prevent nearly all winter flu cases, cancer cases (http://www.naturalnews.com/021892.html) and even kidney disease or osteoporosis. But instead of recommending affordable solutions that really work, the CDC focuses its billions of dollars in taxpayer money on tracking household compliance with deadly vaccines.

This is public health? Get real.

Non-compliant households to be added to quarantine list?

What the CDC is also probably not telling you is that people who answer the survey and admit they have not given their children vaccines could in theory be added to a quarantine list to be arrested and thrown into FEMA camps during the next pandemic outbreak.

The recent "terror exercise" in Denver, called Operation Mountain Guardian featured government SWAT teams and armed military-style squads entering public schools and terrorizing children with simulated gunfire and explosions, then conducting secret mass-arrest exercises in a large sports stadium. As Alex Jones explains on InfoWars.com, this is all practice for kidnapping children, taking them to stadiums, then calling parents to come pick them up at which point the parents are then arrested and taken away by law enforcement authorities (http://www.infowars.com/denver-terr...) while the children are turned over to the state.

The children are essentially used as "bait" to arrest parents who happen to be on whatever government "lists" are considered offensive. If your name is on a list provided by the CDC, claiming that you are a "bad parent" because you refuse to vaccinate your children, you could have those children taken away by the state -- at gunpoint!

This is similar to what happened recently with Maryanne Godboldo in Detroit, who was subjected to a 12-hour SWAT team standoff because she refused to medicate her teenage daughter with dangerous psychiatric drugs (http://www.naturalnews.com/032091_M...).

Of course, the CDC claims your privacy will be protected in all this (yeah, right). "Strict U.S. laws require that we protect your family's information and keep it confidential," the CDC's letter says. Importantly, however, there is nothing in the CDC's letter that says it will not violate those laws. So it's really just clever lawyer-speak to say that "laws require we protect your information" without saying the CDC will abide by those laws.

After all, there are strict U.S. laws that prevent the ATF from running guns into Mexico, but it violated those laws anyway (http://www.naturalnews.com/032934_A...). There are strict U.S. laws that require the President to seek Congressional approval for acts of war, but those laws have been violated routinely for decades. There are strict U.S. laws that protect the due process of U.S. citizens, and yet the U.S. is steeped in illegal secret prisons and torture initiatives that were rolled out under Bush and yet have actually been expanded under the Obama administration. In fact, if there's anything we've all learned about watching the federal government over the last decade, it's that the government will openly and brazenly violate whatever laws it wants in order to get what it wants. This is especially true in health care, where the FDA, for its part, openly engaged in illegal international abductions of American citizens (http://www.naturalnews.com/033573_F...) in order to oppress herbal cancer cures that really work.

And the CDC, we all know, wants increased "vaccine compliance" so that vaccine makers earn more profits from selling these deadly injections to parents who have no idea those vaccines are making their children autistic (or even killing them).

The real agenda of this entire vaccine survey becomes crystal clear at the end of the CDC's letter, which pushes a vaccine agenda with the question: "How do I find out more about immunizations and places to get them?" It then gives out a toll-free number to call to "get the phone number of a doctor of clinic near you."

When the CDC calls your house, don't answer

The message is quite clear in all this: We're from the government, we're going to be calling your private home phone number and asking you questions about your child's immunization history. We want you to produce your child's vaccination records. We will also acquire your doctor's vaccine records to find out if you are lying. The information will be used to track vaccine compliance in your area. And if you want to get "compliant," here's a government phone number to call which will direct you to the nearest vaccine center.

If your receive one of these letters from the CDC, the safest thing to do in all this is screen all your phone calls and simply refuse to answer your phone. Just refuse to talk with them at all. After four or five attempts, they will figure you're never home and probably stop calling. Do NOT speak to them and tell them you are opposed to vaccines, or you may suddenly find yourself being visited by Child Protective Services or government thugs wielding loaded firearms pointed at your head. (This is no longer just a theory. It's factually true.)

The vaccine industry, remember, is running a kind of modern-day McCarthyism, where being intelligently opposed to vaccines is a lot like being accused of being a "Communist" back in the McCarthy era. The government is now admittedly using weapons technology companies, phone surveillance techniques, immunization tracking and statistical analysis to find out who is not being vaccinated. These are police state tactics now being used by the vaccine industry -- in collusion with dangerous government mandates and rogue CPS agents -- to attack your freedom of choice and your right to make parental decisions about the health of your child.

And it's all being done under the false Orwellian mantra that "VACCINES ARE THE SOLUTION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH!" It's all a complete lie, of course. Vaccines cause autism, live viral infections, seizures, comas and even deaths. That's because they contain neurologically damaging adjuvants such as aluminum! They also contain "stealth viruses" that can cause cancer and autoimmune disorders. SANE Vax, Inc. recently found HPV vaccines to be contaminated with the rDNA of HPV viral strains (http://www.naturalnews.com/033585_G...), and vaccine manufacturers have been caught placing live viral strains directly into the vaccines! (http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html)

Perhaps even more shockingly, a top Merck vaccine scientist, Dr. Maurice Hilleman, openly admitted that polio vaccines were contaminated with 40 unknown viral strains, including some strains that caused cancer. Read the incredible transcript of this secret recording at: http://www.naturalnews.com/033584_D...

What we are all suffering under today, friends, is a vaccine-pushing police state and its accompanying Ministry of Truth (the CDC and FDA). This is not about public health, it's about injecting infants and maximizing the profits of the vaccine manufacturers, even if countless children and teens are permanently harmed as a result.

Share this story far and wide. Let people know what's really going on with the CDC and vaccine compliance surveillance programs. And keep reading NaturalNews.com for more breaking news articles that reveal the true agenda of the criminally-operated vaccine industry.

[Ratman83]

Mase you really should change your tagline, it does not work with this thread.

[Mase]

So, you're with algernonpj in that vaccines are needless and create more risk than benefit? If so, then you'll be right at home with the anti-science chemicalphobes here who support loony alarmists like the know nothings at Natural News.

I'm opposed to people who employ junk science to push their anti-science agenda in an effort to save us from ourselves. See Michael Bloomberg for inspiration. Unlike the Luddites, I don't bash people who advance science to benefit the public. How about you?

[Ratman83]

No I am saying that your tagline is a direct opposite of this thread. This thread is about one group saying I know what is best for you and the other side say no you do not. and your tagline says you should be on the no you do not side.

[dangerdoc]

Public medicine is not about saving you from yourself, it about saving your neighbor from you. Your trash goes to a safe landfill, your sewage is piped away, and your kids are immunized to protect your neighbor’s kids.

[algernonpj]

For once and all, and for any poor souls who read this far down in this thread:

First, I note no one addressed WHO redefining the word pandemic in time for the release of the H1N1 flu vaccine.:
Post 45

Second, carefully reread my post # 44:
Post 44M

Third, read mase's post in which he mixes up information regarding the US an the world
Post 47

"Globally, rotavirus is responsible for killing 500,000 infants and children every year. Since the rotavirus vaccine was commercialized in 2006, the rate of hospitalization from rotavirus infections has dropped more than 75% in the US." The implication is that infants in the US are dropping like flies from the rotavirus.

Also note how he trashes hand washing
"It's unfortunate that all these folks weren't aware that they simply needed to wash their hands with soap and water more often or eat more yogurt! What a bunch of uninformed nonsense."

Now go to the CDC website and find out the CDC admits hand washing is a good preventative for rotavirus! In fact hand washing is one the most effective ways to stop the spread of disease, particularly in hospitals.

Please note contrary to mase's propaganda I never said no vaccines at all.

OTH the fact that the CDC, FDA, and EPA have signed on to man-made global warming and adjusted their policies accordingly is extremely relevant for all of us.

Politics and the 'science of consensus' have overtaken reason and the scientific method at these three agencies. A recent example is what passed for science in the mandated switch from CFC inhalers to inferior HFA inhalers in order to 'save' the ozone hole and prevent an 'epidemic of melanoma'.

A wise informed consumer of health care would look at information from a variety of sources, or wait a few years before taking or having their children take a vaccine for a disease that IS NOT 'easily spread through casual contact AND causes high numbers of death and severe disability AND that one is likely to be exposed to'."

Unlike mase I don't automatically believe someone who tells me that they're from the government and they're here to help me. ;)

[Black Agnes]

This is the gun control argument. I have something you perceive affects your safety. You insist government ‘do something’ about that. In this case, forcible medical treatment.

Need I remind you, the CDC itself agrees with the gun controllers that guns are dangerous, cause all sorts of pediatric deaths and should be heavily regulated and taken away from average citizens accordingly.

I’m sure they’re never wrong?

[Mase]

Are you really that daft? Anyone with common sense knows that vaccines have virtually wiped out many fatal diseases that used to ravage mankind, especially children. In the future, more diseases will be eradicated by vaccines. For this reason, vaccinating children is what intelligent people do. Res ipsa loquitur. Denying this fact, and the science that supports it, is the height of stupidity.

Michael Bloomberg, on the other hand, wants to impose his will on you based on anti-science and his need to control others. There are many folks like Bloomberg who have no grasp of science and how it should influence public policy. My tagline is directed towards them. It is absolutely mind-boggling that you are unable to make that connection.

[Ratman83]

Do you drive a car that is dangerous to you and others you better stop, at least by your logic.

[Mase]

First of all, no one here told you they're from the government and they're here to help you. So stop lying. You got caught being woefully uninformed on a subject where you were offering ignorance as fact. That you got caught is causing you great anguish. Tough.

The fact is, prior to the introduction of the rotavirus vaccine in 2006, almost every child in the USA contracted the rotavirus before they were five. To claim, or even suggest, that our children don't need the vaccine (you said it was unnecessary) and, instead, just need to be more careful about washing their hands more often, displays a profound ignorance of the virus and a resolute unwillingness to accept the staggering amount of data from the USA (number of infections, doctor visits and hospitalizations) that proves you have no idea what you're talking about.

Of course, you look at the global data rather than domestic data to come up with some inane conclusion about my intentions. Here are the facts again for you: In the US, and prior to the vaccine, rotavirus was responsible for more than 400,000 doctor visits; more than 200,000 emergency room visits and 55,000 to 70,000 hospitalizations every year in the USA just in children under 5 years old. The vaccine has reduced those numbers by almost 75% over four years. Do you think that's a good thing or do you think it's better for parents to rush their children to the hospital so they don't die of dehydration? How about the cost savings? How much money do you think we're saving by reducing doctor visits by the hundreds of thousands, ER visits by a hundred thousand (or more) and hospitalizations by the tens of thousands? Now, if you can engage your brain to do so, go global and think about how many of those half a million child deaths, mostly from dehydration (what a way to go, huh?) could be prevented by this vaccine. Do you still think it "unnecessary?"

In an attempt to deflect from the facts, you went off on some weird tangent about a list of unrelated topics like the FDA, the EPA and AGW. Whatever. The rotavirus vaccine, contrary to your uneducated opinion, has been a rousing success and is in no way "unnecessary." Good grief, you don't even understand the concept of "community" immunity or why that concept has made polio and small pox irrelevant in this country.

It's time for you to put your big boy pants on and realize you pretended to speak knowledgeably about something that you have no knowledge of. Let it go. This has nothing to do with the EPA, FDA or the CDC - unless you have some information proving the CDC's stats incorrect. This has nothing to do with inhalers or melanoma either. You simply said something you couldn't back up and you are, at least to this point, unable to man up and admit it. Whatever.

[Mase]

I see that I no longer need to ask if you are really as daft as you appear.

[Ratman83]

Obviously you do want a nanny state and your tagline is as bogus as you.

[algernonpj]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2785328/posts?page=65#65

;)

[dangerdoc]

“Do you drive a car that is dangerous to you and others”

No, and I wouldn’t. But if you want to drive a car with no brakes, a shattered windshield or otherwise is unsafe, I don’t want you on the same road as me!

[dangerdoc]

Using public health as an excuse for gun control is wrong on multiple levels. It is a problem with gun control advocates, not a problem with public health.

Public health is a field of science much older than the CDC.

[Black Agnes]

When government is in charge of ‘public health’ THEY get to control the discussion and targets for change.

Just because YOU don’t believe in gun control, or think it has a place in discussion of ‘public health’ doesn’t mean they won’t ultimately be successful at gun control, either.

When government is in control of your health, THEY will ultimately decide when/if/what you do with regard to that and how they might, in fact, force that matter.

Their tack is evident in the actions of ‘Our job is to make you eat healthy!’ Bloomberg.

I’m sure the vaccine supply won’t be altered, at all, once all manufacturing is located in China (currently underway apace, btw, along with most R&D as well). China has never, ever, altered (through incompetence, or malice) any of the products they export our way. Never. I’m sure they can be completely trusted with our childrens vaccines. Completely.

BTW, where are the military vaccines manufactured? That’d be a ‘cool’ first strike, wouldn’t it? Contaminate the flu vaccines for our military just prior to an attack? I’m sure they’d never think of that either!

I worked behind the scenes in R&D and manufacturing. I have a rather more cynical view of government mandates and the ability of industry to carry those out in a completely altruistic and uncorrupted manner (much like my cynicism regarding communism or gun control, both excellent ideas on paper, actual practice is somewhat problematic).

Any vaccination side effects from Chinese manufacturing will be explained as:

Coincidence
Genetics
It was always here, we just never noticed it before!
Munchhausens(sp) by proxy
Drugs the mother had to have done while she was pregnant! (I know someone who had a pedi accuse her of drug abuse during pregnancy because her child had a serious dtap reaction.)

The fact that vaccine manufacturers are both indemnified from tort and now relocating to one of the most corrupt manufacturing environments in the entire world doesn’t give me the warm fuzzies.

YMMV, of course.

This isn’t the vaccine industry of the 1980’s. By a long shot.

We’re not going to discuss the ‘public health’ benefits of vaccinations for behavioral problems like addictions or overeating. Do we have a right to mandate those too? Public health and all.

[dangerdoc]

The public health movement has saved more lives than all of the medicines ever produced.

It is wrong to take that successful model and pervet it to persue nanny state goals. So you tell me that something good is being twisted and used by bad people. That does not mean that public health is the same thing as thing they arey trying to make it. It does not mean that the goals are same as the goals of those trying to pervet it.

The CDC needs a good fumigation, no doubt about that, but the rats in the CDC showed up after the major battles were won and the rank and file are still out there tracking disease.

[Black Agnes]

True about perversion of purpose with the CDC. So true.

There's no doubt that clean water, for example, has saved millions, possibly billions.

I just don't see a way to keep the rats out of the storehouse in this case. It's where they hang out. It's why robbers hold up banks. Where the money is.

My concern, from an R&D perspective is this:

Over the course of my life I've had FIVE (count them, FIVE) Rubella vaccinations. Four between 1984 and 1998 for one reason or another. Starting college, losing records and getting one just to have that record again, getting a tetanus vax at the college health clinic due to puncture wound accident (stepped on nail, ouch!) and getting a Rubella booster, 'just to be sure'. etc.

In 2003 I got serious about trying to have a baby and my OB insisted on a titer, just to be sure. Actually, it was *her* idea, I thought she was just looking to waste my deductible and my insurance company's money. I've had LOTS of them, WHY are we wasting my time with this??? She, thankfully, insisted.

Guess what. NO rubella titer. ZERO.

(Maybe that SIXTH booster would do the trick?)(I'm not alone I find out, there's a good reason my OB checks routinely now...)

I was left with some uncomfortable conclusions. IF I were infected during pregnancy the treatment would be exactly the same as it was before the vax was developed. Abortion or delivery of seriously deformed baby.

In order to assure this didn't happen to my 'inferior' immune system I must rely on 'herd immunity'. Which means forcing everyone *else* to have that vaccination. I'm not comfortable with that either. It's a rather objectionable vaccine, being made from a cell line derived from an abortion. Some people have genuine religious objections to this. Does my need to feel safe override their genuine objections to this? I don't think so.

Where does my 'need to feel safe and have government force something on them' end? It sounded like my NE liberal coworkers arguments against the availability of guns. They wanted them collected, house to house, by FORCE if necessary. Because the mere presence of guns made them FEEL unsafe.

Why no Plan B with rubella infection? Why is it, in the past FIFTY YEARS, we still know very little more about HOW rubella actually infects and does its dirty deeds than we did before there was a vaccine?

In this case, public health seems to be all 'Plan A' and no 'Plan B' at all. In fact, lack of 'Plan B' seems to be used as a fear factor to ensure maximum uptake of 'Plan A'. And I found that merely questioning the lack of 'Plan B' will mark one as some sort of antivaccine heretic. Or something. Yes, clearly, that's me. I looked like a pincushion in the 1990's. Clearly I'm antivaccine.

And, due to to overabundance of trust in 'Plan A', research since the vaccines for 'serious' diseases that killed/maimed large numbers of children were developed has not happened. Instead of using that time/money to figure OUT the diseases in question (just in case the vaccine strains mutate around the ones in use (pertussis is doing this, CDC is watching this closely, ditto mumps as well)) so we can TREAT them instead of just shotgunning 'Plan A' over 300m people. And, use that information to decipher the other bad guys (ebola, 1918 flu, others), we're chasing ever and smaller epidemiological impacts (HPV/Cervical cancer). It would appear that *all* public health initiatives lead to vaccination of some sort. Diseases, addictions, obesity, you name it.

As I said, I'm cynical by nature having had many years experience in the back end of the business.

'Plan A', by force if necessary makes more money for those lucky enough to be in on the game (private and public)(NIH owns the patent for the 'virus like particle' technology used in Gardasil, were their approval and opinions on Gardasil really unbiased? IIRC they get $3/shot. Lots of shots mean lots of money...they stand to benefit, immensely if it becomes mandatory under obamacare) and reinforces statist tendencies. Both sides of the equation of bad guys win. Instead of finding how to *treat* the flu (and possibly all or most flu virus variations) it's MUCH more profitable to just scare 300m people into getting a $30 shot. Every year.

--BA, the cynic.

[Black Agnes]

Then there's this delightful little tidbit:

Baxter bird flu botch

Joy. Bliss. Only imagine had this actually gotten released. A little bird in the industry tells me it was only random chance this particular batch was 'tested' to begin with.

[maine-iac7]

Defense tactics:

1: as soon as you get the letter of intent to call you, MONITOR your calls. If a number without ID or that you don't recognize, let it go to answering machine. If it's really a friend or someone 'benign' they will start to leave a message, at which time you can choose to pick up.

2: If someone you don't recognize asks for you, do not acknowledge but ask "Who's calling, please?" If they won't identify themselves or they do and it's "them", say: "I'm sorry, "she/he" isn't here right now. may I leave a message?" If they leave a number to call - don't. (Rinse/repeat as often as necc. They have a time limit on their agenda and will eventually stop calling.

3: If they DO get you trapped on the phone, tell them you're sorry but you don't discuss personal medical information with anyone but your doctors.

4: It says that one question they will ask is permission to contact your children's doctors to attain the records. REMEMBER THIS: the REASON they ASK permission is that it is ILLEGAL for them to contact your doctors for such information! So politely decline on the ground of personal information between you and your doctors.

5: If all else fails and a doctor has prescribed a harmful drug for your child, maybe you could consider passive non-compliance? For ex: Maybe show your child the long list of harmful side effects and explain that you don't want to do that to them. Agree with your child to just not use them but keep mum about it. (If your child is too young, go to step 6 - maybe should do this as step ONE) Tell the powers that be that they seem to be working fine...keep getting the prescriptions fill on time and toss them.

6: At the same time, find a Naturopathic doctor that also has a medical degree - most have - and put your child under THEIR care. Insurance likely won't cover it, but many times, the out of pocket money isn't any more than your co-pays with 'regular' doctors - indeed, often less because you're child will get better and likely not need to go to the doctor nearly as much.

A Naturopath will not put your child on dangerous drugs and quite likely will give you a natural food/supplements regime that really WILL HELP your child.

As long as the Naturopath is also a trained physician - and in many states it is required - the drug pushing gov't henchmen should not be able to touch you.

[maine-iac7]

you post: “We were sending all of our flu swabs to the state lab for testing. They were testing more than 90% H1N1. We had two deaths in patients less than 25 from the H1N1 at our hospital.”\

When the gov’t and the medical establishment - and YOU - get a handle on the hundreds of thousands of deaths every year from mistakes in hospitals, prescription and drugs - come back and talk.

Here’s just a couple among hundreds of articles.

http://www.rightdiagnosis.com/mistakes/common.htm

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/01/15/recreational-drugs-far-less-likely-to-kill-you-than-prescribed-drugs.aspx