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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
In my 30 year career as owner of and doctor in a health clinic I have known several thousand families. My anecdotal observations:

— I have **never** met a homeschooler with ADD or ADHD who has been homeschooled exclusively. This is true only if they never attended government school.

— I have** never**met an obese homeschooled child, if that child was homeschooled from the beginning. Again, this was my observation if they had never attended government school. In fact, I can't even recall having a cubby one.

— Academically successful homeschoolers and successful institutionalized children spend the **same** amount of time in formal study at the kitchen table or their desk. I conclude then that the real learning is happening in the home due to the home life of the family, the efforts of the parents and/or child ( himself), and friends or family of the child.

Conclusion: The only thing government school does is waste the child's life, promote ADD and ADHD, increase the likelihood that a child will be illiterate and innumerate, and make kids fat.

11 posted on 09/28/2011 4:07:13 PM PDT by wintertime (I am a Constitutional Restorationist!!! Yes!)
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To: wintertime
In fact, I can't even recall having a chubby one.

If you look at my profile, you'll see one. When you've got a child who likes to read, draw, and eat, and doesn't like to exercise, you'll get a child who's overweight. And you can't eliminate food from the house when there are nine others who need to eat.

14 posted on 09/28/2011 4:17:59 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Skip the election and let Thomas Sowell choose the next President.)
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To: wintertime
I don't discount what you are saying Doc but I also think there is a real medical cause in a lot of kids that are not getting caught. Vestibular Damage can be hard to detect especially in younger kids.

I can tell you some things too look for though. Look for a kid with below average coordination. Check the ears and eyes as well. Check for working vision in both eyes at the same time. I passed two armed forces entrance exams and I'm single eye functional. Look at their shoes. How are they wearing? Are they broke over the sides? That can point to walking off balance.

Try verbal commands and retention while doing dual tasking. Have a radio playing or some other distraction and see if they become agiated while trying to task or communicate. The kid you have too tell too take out the trash three times and the third time acts like they just understood you likely did just understand you. Look for Dyslexic signs as well as skipping words, sentences, even paragraphs while reading out loud.

For the above any kid with chronic ear infections, allergies, sinus troubles, etc I would watch closely for this to become a possibility. Or for that matter this applies to adults as well.

If a doctor doesn't catch it and a Shrink starts writing meds like Ritalin or SSRI's etc very bad things can happen. I'm not a doctor. I'm a patient who as an adult diagnosed with General Anxiety Disorder had to gather enough information about my disorders so Shrinks didn't kill me. LOL. It all pointed back to the clues I listed above :>}

20 posted on 09/28/2011 4:34:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: wintertime

“But I have **never** met a homeschooler with ADD.”

Yes, this is a powerful piece of evidence: Thanks.

But even you, Wintertime, are not addressing the theory that the teacher wrote me about. In effect, the ed people make the kids illiterate and anxious SO THAT the medical people can give them drugs and doubly dumb them down.

It’s a terrible thing to contemplate. But the crazy eagerness of the psychiatrists to give drugs to kids is hard to explain. Bruce Shortt in “The Harsh Truth About Public Schools” talks about this. Are the shrinks owned by the drug companies? Are they all devoted ideologues hoping to destroy the country? That’s what the special ed teacher is saying. Just so everyone is clear on this, here’s more of what the teacher said:

“They want to eliminate individual thinking at all costs. Our entire population is being attacked. It is no exaggeration to state that the NWO is at war with humanity, and in particular with the US because we are the only country with a history of a sense of having ‘rights.’”

I don’t like thinking about this level of conspiracy; but as I said, I’m comfortable now saying that the Education Establishment used a reading method they had to know did not work.


43 posted on 09/28/2011 5:26:02 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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