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To: tubebender
Wow! Those are red, and they have a different propagating habit and cultivating needs. You planted them too close together from what I read tonight, but it sounds like it's working for you and what is the difference if you plant close together and they sucker/cane close together? Ordinarily I like plants that sucker because it's an easy way to get more, but they can be a nuisance and don't always pop up where you want them. And it's best to sever the connecting root from the mother plant and let them put down more of their own roots before xplanting. I had terrible losses trying to grow freshly dug rose suckers; luckily just one took and puts out suckers now, took about 3 years to get to that point.

I can't bury anything that big (physically), and looked up those factoids about Bristol. It propagates from I guess it would be nodes on the root and if you want more, you have to bury the tip several centimeters.

I don't really have an ideal place for them here, and they need lots of water and fertilizer in the spring and other things for optimum cultivation. I'll be lucky if I get these in the ground soon enough to set roots down further to survive the winter. I'll plant mixing compost with the soil and lay out cardboard or layers of newspaper covered with lots of grass clippings which is all I have for mulch. In the fall I hope I can grab some oak leaves from the neighbors, lost my mulch maple tree last year. Oak leaves are the best.

I think both red and black like slightly acidic soil but need nitrogen fertilizeer so have to watch the ph and I don't have a tester. From your high yields, you're doing it all right. I will have to remember the fruit on the cane the second year and then the cane is done, hope I can tell the difference, should be similar to roses.

I have some red ones in the fridge from the store, frozen, thawed and have to add your own sugar now, got them for a treat. I like them over vanilla ice cream.

Thanks so much for the response. I wish I had some veggies going as that's what most here are doing which is a good thing.

103 posted on 08/20/2011 9:44:43 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska

I forgot to mention that our planting is over 20 years old. Our soil is on the acid side of the PH scale here in the Redwoods and I do fertilize a couple of times a year and water regularly. In another climate the Heritage would put on 2 crops I believe?


109 posted on 08/21/2011 7:50:22 AM PDT by tubebender (The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some very good ideas)
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