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It’s Official: Apple Ousts Nokia as the World’s Largest Smartphone Vendor
All Thing Digital ^ | JULY 29, 2011 AT 7:53 AM PT | John Paczkowski

Posted on 07/29/2011 5:51:07 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 07/29/2011 5:51:13 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~; 1234; Abundy; Action-America; acoulterfan; AFreeBird; Airwinger; Aliska; altair; ...
It's official: Apple is now the #1 smart phone maker in the world, eclipsing Nokia—PING!


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2 posted on 07/29/2011 5:58:48 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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3 posted on 07/29/2011 6:13:06 PM PDT by TXnMA (There is no Constitutional right to NOT be offended.)
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To: TXnMA

My iPhone 3 started to crap out after 3 years so I moved from ATT to Verizon and picked up an iPhone 4. I looked at Android but it just didn’t seem as good. The move was seamless and all of my apps and contacts moved with a simple iTunes sync.

Verizon doesn’t use a sim chip so if I damage my phone or have a repair issue, I can’t just stick the card in a Go Phone and keep going. Oh well! I can buy a Go Phone card and pay 10 cents a minute if I need repairs.


4 posted on 07/29/2011 6:37:55 PM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Swordmaker
Here's another report on the same thing. What's interesting to note is how fast Nokia slid, and how fast Samsung rose (over 500% this last year) - enough to nearly equal Apple from basically nothing last year...

HTC has also climbed stratospherically into 12.1 million phones sold in Q2.

The next few quarters will see Apple, Samsung and HTC battling it out for the biggest smartphone vendor out there.

5 posted on 07/29/2011 6:54:47 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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What's interesting to note is how fast Nokia slid

... and RIMM [Blackberry] ...

6 posted on 07/29/2011 7:12:29 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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You might have noted that the HTC is a clone of the iPhone, which might explain some of their success.


7 posted on 07/29/2011 7:25:25 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: BunnySlippers

Yeah, RIM’s a bit different, though - they have massive entrenchment in business and government markets in the US, and are gaining massively in the UK (if I recall correctly, RIM was up more than any other maker in the UK market).

They’ll be a perennial 4-5th place player, but because of that government and big-business tie-in they’ll probably not lose much market share at all.


8 posted on 07/29/2011 7:36:02 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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Huh? Which HTC? They have a few dozen models, you know... Surely you don't mean something like this is a "clone" of the iPhone?


9 posted on 07/29/2011 7:38:24 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: FromTheSidelines

Perhaps. But they just laid off 10% of their employees! Their PlayBook was a flop.


10 posted on 07/29/2011 7:40:21 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I love BULL MARKETS . . .)
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LOL! F.U. NOKIA!


11 posted on 07/29/2011 7:45:39 PM PDT by cmsgop ( The left always accuses the right for the sins of the left. from FReeper Just Lori, RIP)
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To: FromTheSidelines

There are no winners or losers in these discussions, but facts are facts and iOS is clearly the leader in the handheld business, now and for the foreseeable future.

Apple does everything wrong, and still has become the bigger that the government. Ok that part is a silly quote from Drudge, but they have amassed a very large chunk of cash.

I really don’t care for the company, but I like their product. if there was something better, for me personally, I would abandon them in a heart beat.


12 posted on 07/29/2011 8:21:27 PM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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There are no winners or losers in these discussions, but facts are facts and iOS is clearly the leader in the handheld business, now and for the foreseeable future.

Except the facts say otherwise - Android has a bigger chunk of the handheld business, and that margin is increasing.

I was just wondering which HTC phone you thought was a clone of the iPhone...

13 posted on 07/29/2011 9:46:58 PM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: itsahoot

You might have noted that the HTC is a clone of the iPhone, which might explain some of their success.

and are currently losing the patent battle against Apple. HTC may face an import ban or have to buy a license from Apple to continue importing its “clones” into the USA. Apple has the legal clout and money to shut them down world wide.

It is all about patent pofolios - which is why Google just bought 1030 patents from IBM... Android is at risk, and finished, if Oracle wins its suit against Google.


14 posted on 07/30/2011 4:48:58 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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I see this as further vindication of Apple’s system strategy of hardware and software built together and specifically built to complement each other. I expect them to take over all market segments in the future. Perhaps they will then lend money to the US government. Nah! They are too smart for that.


15 posted on 07/30/2011 9:02:42 AM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (I retain the right to be inconsistent, contradictory and even flat-out wrong!)
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To: FromTheSidelines

That is like saying Ford is losing to all the other car companies because they all use gasoline, Ford is in real trouble. But like Apple they are actually selling cars, and making money.

Just because a phone comes with android, doesn’t mean that they are all the same, various companies taylor android to their needs. I think I read somewhere that today’s Droid can’t be assured it will even run the next version. In fact only about 10 % of the current phones running android are running the latest version, and many are not even capable of running the latest version. Besides as we have all been told, so many times before, once MS enters the market they are all doomed.

PS I was referring to the patent case that apparently Apple won against Samsung. Easy to make a phone when you have the other guys blueprints. Even easier to make them look very similar. I am pretty sure Apple has selected another fabricator.


16 posted on 07/30/2011 10:36:02 AM PDT by itsahoot (--I will vote for Sarah Palin, even if I have to write her in. --He that hath an ear, let him hear.)
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To: FromTheSidelines
Except the facts say otherwise - Android has a bigger chunk of the handheld business, and that margin is increasing.

And Dan Frommer's cherry picked data in that article included all the Chinese quasi-Android phones that don't run the Android apps, Android feature phones that don't run the Android apps, and while he did include the iPod touches, he deliberately excluded the 15 million iPads that had been sold at the time of his snap shot of the market, because "they weren't smartphones(!)", to get his breathless FUD headline that was supposed to be about iOS, not smartphones. So why did he include iPod touches? His "facts" were roundly criticized!

17 posted on 07/30/2011 10:56:52 AM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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To: itsahoot

Cool, so it wasn’t HTC - it was Samsung. Fair enough.


18 posted on 07/30/2011 11:32:26 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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To: Swordmaker

So it runs Android, but because it doesn’t run the Google apps (there aren’t any “Android” apps) - it’s not an Android device? That doesn’t makes sense. Android is an OS - it has features that enabled and disabled as needed.

I guess only Windows 7 Professional and Ultimate count as Windows 7 OS deployments, too, huh?


19 posted on 07/30/2011 11:34:58 AM PDT by FromTheSidelines ("everything that deceives, also enchants" - Plato)
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The Chinese OMS and TAPAS operating systems, which were remotely derived from Android, were included in the statistics that Canalys used to make this report. They are NOT Google's Android... They DO NOT run Android apps.

A device that uses a stripped down Android ROM and uses NONE of the Android functionality merely to avoid licensing something else that costs money to use can hardly be called an Android device. The hardware on these devices is not even capable of being reprogramed. I might be inclined to grant you these dumb devices...

But the distortion of the "facts" that were used to make the story were necessary to get what the author wanted. He had to include devices that no one else recognizes as Android devices, marginal Android devices, and omit iOS devices that would have invalidated his claims. That is the point.

20 posted on 07/30/2011 12:32:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft product "insult" free zone.)
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