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Casey Anthony Live Trial Thread, Day 45: CLOSIING ARGUMENTS (7/03/11)
July 3, 2011 | truthkeeper

Posted on 07/03/2011 6:05:20 AM PDT by truthkeeper

Good Morning to all. Closing Arguments are today.

I apologize in advance if you were either left off today's ping list or included in error. I am not at home and forgot to forward my pinglist to my friend's house, so I've had to check some older threads and reconstruct as many names as possible. If I missed you I'm sorry.

I probably won't be able to post much on this thread, but after I am home I will keep my ear to the television/radio for the jury decision, and will ping again when I hear so we can have a discussion thread.

Let me know if you want on or off the ping list.


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KEYWORDS: anthony; baez; casey; caseyanthony; caylee; crime; murder; orlandoflorida; roykronk; trial
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To: screaminsunshine

Don’t know. But ANY reasonable person could have figured it out based on the evidence.


1,281 posted on 07/03/2011 7:17:02 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

Too many. Don’t need too. No answer. You got the answer I am looking for? Or not. If not. Not interested. You are stuck.


1,282 posted on 07/03/2011 7:18:02 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: KevinB

Kevin, I had a prof in grad school - PhDs in both math and law. Taught the most interesting course I ever took - decision science applied to law.

He quoted a judge with an 80% criterion with horror. You should think about that - one in five people you hang is innocent?

Is that your standard for success?


1,283 posted on 07/03/2011 7:19:41 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I aTm unable to recall them.)
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To: miss marmelstein

I had forgotten that one! lol Lots of gems in there today - maybe he will win an emmy for daytime television!


1,284 posted on 07/03/2011 7:20:32 PM PDT by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA (Going into Rehab means never having to say you are sorry....)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA

To: kcvl
So was George Washington go away. Prepare to have your dreams of the media template shattered. I won’t if you won’t.

Atticus

1,073 posted on July 3, 2011 5:59:56 PM CDT by screaminsunshine

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2743427/posts?page=1073#1073


1,285 posted on 07/03/2011 7:20:32 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: caww

OMG this is bad enough without that thought!!!!


1,286 posted on 07/03/2011 7:22:43 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: screaminsunshine

Look it up


1,287 posted on 07/03/2011 7:22:46 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: miss marmelstein

OMG did he really say that?

I couldn’t stand listening him muted his whining voice.


1,288 posted on 07/03/2011 7:26:00 PM PDT by Marty62 (Marty60)
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To: Marty62

M..SS predicts ...Accident that snowballed out of control works for me.


1,289 posted on 07/03/2011 7:30:39 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: CAluvdubya

Simon Birch, the operations manager for Johnsons Wrecker Service during the summer of 2008, said that Anthony’s white Pontiac Sunfire had been on the tow yard’s lot for three days when he examined the car’s exterior in early July.

On July 13, 2008, while doing yard work, Cindy and George Anthony found a notice from the post office for a certified letter affixed on their front door. George Anthony picked up the certified letter from the post office on July 15, 2008, and found out that their daughter’s car was in a tow yard

Birch testified that Casey’s car was taken to the tow yard on June 30, after a finance company’s manager reported it abandoned in its parking lot for three days


1,290 posted on 07/03/2011 7:32:56 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Marty62

LOL...I know..I thought that when the Attorney mentioned this...but it did give one pause because there’s alot of information, of a sexual nature which has been sealed.


1,291 posted on 07/03/2011 7:48:48 PM PDT by caww
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To: MEG33

Do not be crying when the verdict is “accident that snowballed out of control”. Nancy Grace and her Wal-Mart shopper lynch mob will go out of control when the verdict is announced.


1,292 posted on 07/03/2011 7:53:57 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: Thank You Rush
Enjoy the show for me and think of us buried in trees in GA. AND don’t forget the HEAT!

I will, FRiend. You'll be with us in spirit! :-)

1,293 posted on 07/03/2011 7:57:29 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: Marty62

Yes, he did say it. One of the first things he said when he took control of the summation. Some of commentators on tv mentioned it. Peculiar to say the least.


1,294 posted on 07/03/2011 7:58:02 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (FR haters of Sarah Palin are wearing me out)
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To: Thank You Rush

“I don’t see that she did anything but give birth. She was not a mother to this child”

EXACTLY!

Not one day did she work to make a living for her and the child either!
She was nothing but a thief to her family and friends. And she did love to shop for herself, not Caylee.

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Detective interviews released today indicate that Casey Anthony’s grandmother wanted to have her arrested after her checks went missing in 2007, according to the Miami Herald. Anthony’s grandmother, Shirley Plesea, decided not to pursue the case out of concern for Casey’s daughter, Caylee, the Miami Herald reports.

Plesea also informed detectives that Anthony “tormented” her mother, Cindy, during the same time period. During this time, Anthony also claimed she was traveling with Caylee in Tampa and Jacksonville.

ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) In a videotaped interview with FBI agents obtained by the Orlando Sentinel and released on the newspaper’s Web site Friday, George Anthony said he and his wife had problems making their house payments because his daughter forged a deposit slip from her mother’s account for $4,400 check.

Cindy Anthony:

“She had actually used one of my credit cards that was paid off.  That’s how I know about the amount because I found out, oh, probably late 2007 that there was, like, $4500 on that card which I had a zero balance on.”

On August 9, 2007, Casey stole a check from Shirley Plesea. Shirley was staying at the Anthony house for Caylee’s second birthday party, and Casey used the check for a $54 Publix purchase to buy Caylee’s birthday cake and some decorations. I think Casey was hoping her grandmother would be too senile to notice the extra purchase, but Shirley did notice. Shirley was willing to let it go.

Also in August 2007, George sold his Toyota Camry for $4,000 and gave the money to Cindy. Cindy put the money in her BoA account. At some point after that (I believe in the fall of 2007), Casey forged a BoA deposit slip for $4,400, apparently to repay Cindy for the credit card charges that Cindy had discovered on August 4. Cindy believed the money was in her account and wrote a check for the mortgage that bounced.

Here is Casey’s cell phone bill payment history from December 2007 on . . .

December 2007:

12/4/2007 – Casey owed $814.00. She apparently had not paid the bill for months, and I believe this may have been the first time it occurred to her to pay her cell bill by hacking into Cindy’s online savings account.

12/6/2007 – Casey transferred $814.00 from Cindy’s BoA money market savings account to Casey’s AT&T account. Cindy’s savings account went negative and she was hit with a $35 overdraft fee, but she transferred $331.75 into the account on 12/14 to balance it, so she paid Casey’s $814.00 cell bill and the overdraft charge.

12/14/2007- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($115.93)

12/14/2007- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($143.17)

12/15/2007- Casey uses Cindy’s check ay Target ($90.81)

12/28/2009- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($110.01)

12/29/2007 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($58.54)

12/31/2007 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($44.86)

January 2008:

1/8/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($121.66). Note: check was not dated but this is the date the check went through Cindy’s account.

1/24/2008 – Casey owed $180.21 (new charges)

1/26/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($84.86)

1/28/2008 – Casey transferred $180.21 from Cindy’s BoA money market savings
account to Casey’s AT&T account. Cindy’s account went negative and she was hit with
a $35 overdraft fee, but she transferred $200.88 into the account on 2/19 to balance it, so she paid Casey’s $180.21 cell bill and the overdraft charge.

1/29/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($52.05)

1/31/2008 – Casey writes a check to herself using Cindy’s checking account ($60.00)

1/31/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($48.95)

February 2008:

2/5/2008- Casey writes a check to herself using Cindy’s checking account ($125.00)

2/6/2008- Casey writes a check to herself using Cindy’s checking account ($75.00)

2/18/2008- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($64.86)

2/19/2008- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($83.75)

2/20/2008- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($158.93)

2/22/2008- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Kmart ($31.28)

2/22/2008- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Ross ($58.49)

2/23/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Walgreens ($106.41)

2/26/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Michael’s ($20.52)

2/27/2008 – Casey owed $160.57 (new charges)

2/28/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($84.93)

2/29/2008 – Casey transferred $160.57 from Cindy’s BoA money market savings account to Casey’s AT&T account. Cindy’s account went negative and she was hit with a $35 overdraft fee, but she transferred $191.56 into the account on 3/14 to balance it, so she paid Casey’s $160.57 cell bill and the overdraft charge.

March 2008:

3/3/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($65.34)

3/4/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($61.61)

3/4/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Ross ($64.86)

3/6/2008- Casey uses Cindy’s check at Walgreens ($50.00)

3/9/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Target ($58.92)

3/9/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Michaels ($35.80)

3/10/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Publix ($24.94)

3/10/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Kmart ($86.55)

3/11/2008 – Casey uses Cindy’s check at Walgreens ($45.62)

3/14/2008 – It appears that Cindy closed the BoA money market savings account on

3/14 after balancing the account. The last statement for this account shows that as of

4/9, the account still had a zero balance and that the last activity on the account was Cindy’s 3/14 transfer to cover the negative and zero out the account. There are no subsequent statements for this BoA savings account in discovery.

4/8/2008 – Casey owed $354.04 (combination of new charges on top of the unpaid $191.17 bill).

4/10/2008 Casey stole a check from her grandfather Alex Plesea’s BoA account and used it to pay Casey’s $354.04 AT&T bill. The payment to Casey’s AT&T account was reversed a few weeks later when Shirley discovered the stolen check around the end of April, beginning of March. Note – the detail is missing from the statements of Alex’s account released in discovery for March through July 2008. However, Shirley was very specific that Casey cashed the checked for $354. And in another set of discovery, the date of this stolen check is given as April 10, 2008.

May 2008:

5/6/2008 – Casey owed $574.60 (combination of new charges on top of the unpaid bills from the previous two months; Casey had not actually paid her cell bill since 2/29).

5/8/2008 – Casey transferred $574.60 from Cindy’s BoA regular checking account to Casey’s AT&T account.

June 2008:

6/25/2008 – Casey owed $377.33 (I believe these are all new charges given Casey’s extremely heavy cell phone use during this billing period).

6/27/2008 – Casey attempted to transfer $377.33 from Cindy’s checking to Casey’s AT&T account. Payment rejected for NSF.

6/30/2008 – Casey’s transfer of $377.33 from Cindy’s checking to Casey’s AT&T account was attempted again. This was probably an automatic second attempt since the first attempt on 6/27 had not succeeded because of insufficient funds. The payment to Casey’s AT&T account was rejected a second time.

MORE...

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1,295 posted on 07/03/2011 7:59:54 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: caww

All the News Talkers also say Obama is the gift of Gode..you agree with that too?


1,296 posted on 07/03/2011 8:00:00 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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To: indylindy
You don’t love Casey unless you lie for her. Could be why all the blame has been directed at George. Could also be that George wanted her to get a different attorney.

I said this on one of the earlier threads. George also would not put the house up for Casey's bond. I'm sure she is convinced that she has had to sit in jail because of him.

1,297 posted on 07/03/2011 8:00:04 PM PDT by truthkeeper (Vote Against Barack Obama in 2012!)
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To: caww; All

I have wondered and worried about where they really were when Casey was “working.”

http://www.wftv.com/video/28437169/index.html
The calmest sanest commentator on this trial IMO..on todays closing.


1,298 posted on 07/03/2011 8:00:04 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: screaminsunshine

I won’t post to you if you won’t post to me. Deal?


1,299 posted on 07/03/2011 8:02:52 PM PDT by MEG33 (God Bless Our Military Men And Women)
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To: truthkeeper

Amazing. Media brainwashing really works. Even on Freepers.


1,300 posted on 07/03/2011 8:03:41 PM PDT by screaminsunshine (Socialism...Easier said than done.)
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