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1 posted on 06/24/2011 9:59:37 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Clan mine ping


2 posted on 06/24/2011 10:01:03 AM PDT by decimon
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city children taught to read and write at home before widespread public education

NO WAI! Nobody ever learned to read, write, and add before compulsory government schools opened! Everyone knows that!

3 posted on 06/24/2011 10:04:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, I woke up in a Grump.)
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as well as insular rural residents who resisted assimilation for one hundred years.

Why not study the communities of immigrants (some of which are here illegally) who refuse to assimilate today?

4 posted on 06/24/2011 10:05:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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who resisted assimilation for one hundred years.

"These people helped build Maryland's infrastructure and supply materials for the Washington Monument, the U.S. Capitol, yet their voices have been muted in history," Brighton adds. i>

Um, if the story is to believed at all, "these people" muted themselves. Are we sure this isn't Pompey and they were covered by volcanic ash?

5 posted on 06/24/2011 10:05:42 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

******Dating to the 1850’s******** ?????????????????

Good grief - there should be diaries and photos.

Digging???

I’m all in favor of sunken civs - but this hardly qualifies.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 10:25:32 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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My great grandfather’s obituary (born 1840 in Kilkee, Ireland; died Osceola in PA in 1895) noted that he was honored in his community for teaching other young, Irish immigrant coal miners to read and write. Although he was retired from the mines because of lung problems at the time of his death, he was noted for “reading extensively and discussing the news of the day with his neighbors and all who stopped by.”

It’s almost like FreeRepublic.

He made sure that his 13 children were all educated, although he didn’t live to see them all grow up.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 10:29:12 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Ceramic plates were used at family dinners where everyone in the house gathered to share a simple meal, to bond, and transmit their cultural legacy.

As opposed to swinging by McDonald's on their way home?

You're right; this reads like a report on an ancient civilization rather than one that posters on this board have 2nd- if not 1st-hand knowledge. While this Brighton guy sounds like a typical academic--he has no experience in the real world of real people living real lives--I'm grateful that he's sifting under outhouses . . . and not me.

12 posted on 06/24/2011 10:29:36 AM PDT by Oratam
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Even after children married, they remained with their parents and eventually inherited the house.
I just "completed" a family genealogy project (Irish in the Lower East Side of Manhattan 1850-1910) and was surprised to find so many older kids that lived at home. Some into their 30s.
I also discovered my gg-grandfather bought a house in Brooklyn about 1890 which was inherited by his daughter in 1910, who then left it to her daughter in the 1930s.
That immigrants wanted to live with their own is not so surprising, given the amount of hatred against them.

13 posted on 06/24/2011 10:53:40 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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