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Hidden Lives of Baltimore's Irish Immigrants Unearthed for First Time
University of Maryland ^ | June 24, 2011 | Unknown

Posted on 06/24/2011 9:59:35 AM PDT by decimon

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1 posted on 06/24/2011 9:59:37 AM PDT by decimon
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To: SunkenCiv

Clan mine ping


2 posted on 06/24/2011 10:01:03 AM PDT by decimon
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city children taught to read and write at home before widespread public education

NO WAI! Nobody ever learned to read, write, and add before compulsory government schools opened! Everyone knows that!

3 posted on 06/24/2011 10:04:11 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, I woke up in a Grump.)
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as well as insular rural residents who resisted assimilation for one hundred years.

Why not study the communities of immigrants (some of which are here illegally) who refuse to assimilate today?

4 posted on 06/24/2011 10:05:06 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (Ask Barack Obama this election if he believes Jesus Christ rose from the dead and walked among men.)
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who resisted assimilation for one hundred years.

"These people helped build Maryland's infrastructure and supply materials for the Washington Monument, the U.S. Capitol, yet their voices have been muted in history," Brighton adds. i>

Um, if the story is to believed at all, "these people" muted themselves. Are we sure this isn't Pompey and they were covered by volcanic ash?

5 posted on 06/24/2011 10:05:42 AM PDT by subterfuge (BUILD MORE NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS NOW!!!)
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I wonder what researchers will find years in the future, when they excavate the remains of cities such as Detroit. I wonder what the remains will tell of the lives of people today.


6 posted on 06/24/2011 10:06:22 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: a fool in paradise

It’s not PC to study immigrants today. It’s only PC to study immigrants from a hundred years ago.


7 posted on 06/24/2011 10:07:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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Many apartments with big-screen televisions and just about nothing else in them.

Have you seen the “Ruins of Detroit” photo collections? They’re astounding.


8 posted on 06/24/2011 10:08:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Yes, I woke up in a Grump.)
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To: subterfuge
Um, if the story is to believed at all...

If you'd seen areas like Howard Beach in NYC then you might be more believing.

9 posted on 06/24/2011 10:11:21 AM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon; SunkenCiv

******Dating to the 1850’s******** ?????????????????

Good grief - there should be diaries and photos.

Digging???

I’m all in favor of sunken civs - but this hardly qualifies.


10 posted on 06/24/2011 10:25:32 AM PDT by sodpoodle
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To: decimon

My great grandfather’s obituary (born 1840 in Kilkee, Ireland; died Osceola in PA in 1895) noted that he was honored in his community for teaching other young, Irish immigrant coal miners to read and write. Although he was retired from the mines because of lung problems at the time of his death, he was noted for “reading extensively and discussing the news of the day with his neighbors and all who stopped by.”

It’s almost like FreeRepublic.

He made sure that his 13 children were all educated, although he didn’t live to see them all grow up.


11 posted on 06/24/2011 10:29:12 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Ceramic plates were used at family dinners where everyone in the house gathered to share a simple meal, to bond, and transmit their cultural legacy.

As opposed to swinging by McDonald's on their way home?

You're right; this reads like a report on an ancient civilization rather than one that posters on this board have 2nd- if not 1st-hand knowledge. While this Brighton guy sounds like a typical academic--he has no experience in the real world of real people living real lives--I'm grateful that he's sifting under outhouses . . . and not me.

12 posted on 06/24/2011 10:29:36 AM PDT by Oratam
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Even after children married, they remained with their parents and eventually inherited the house.
I just "completed" a family genealogy project (Irish in the Lower East Side of Manhattan 1850-1910) and was surprised to find so many older kids that lived at home. Some into their 30s.
I also discovered my gg-grandfather bought a house in Brooklyn about 1890 which was inherited by his daughter in 1910, who then left it to her daughter in the 1930s.
That immigrants wanted to live with their own is not so surprising, given the amount of hatred against them.

13 posted on 06/24/2011 10:53:40 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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OH MY WORD!!! They actually used CERAMIC PLATES for dinner! OH! The huge manatee!!!


14 posted on 06/24/2011 12:03:20 PM PDT by misharu (FB: I Stand with Sarah Palin)
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To: decimon

have they found bambi’s irish roots? maybe he can use this to claim he is an american citizen.


15 posted on 06/24/2011 12:12:48 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Oratam

My family (Irish catholics) immigrated from Ireland and settled in Maryland during the 1840’s. They worked on the railroad and the MD canal. They all assimilated just fine. Frankly this “study” is a bunch of BS.


16 posted on 06/24/2011 12:13:40 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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My family (Irish catholics) immigrated from Ireland and settled in Maryland during the 1840’s. They worked on the railroad and the MD canal. They all assimilated just fine. Frankly this “study” is a bunch of BS.

The article says most Irish immigrants assimilated. This group isolated itself.

Ethnic enclaves are nothing new in the US. All ethnic groups.

17 posted on 06/24/2011 12:25:36 PM PDT by decimon
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Maybe the author expected them to use paper plates.


18 posted on 06/24/2011 1:42:03 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Some brothers have humongous monsters, and some don't. Live with it.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
They've a grand strand in Kilkee--a grand strand.

My grandmother emigrated from Co. Clare in 1918. The rest of my ancestors, presumably all Irish, are still a bit of a mystery.

19 posted on 06/24/2011 3:35:17 PM PDT by Oratam
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The good professor would no doubt be amazed at the concept of a potluck dinner.

But, no, poor immigrant Irish didn’t participate in dinner “parties” because they lacked serving plates.


20 posted on 06/24/2011 3:39:31 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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