[RC one]

If they manage to collect 231,000 signatures, it will be an indicator of what we can expect in Ohio come November 06, 2012. It will, if nothing else, clearly define the battle we're going to have in Ohio i.e. class warfare pure and simple. IMO, Ohio remains just as necessary as it always does which is to say, we need to win Ohio if we want to fire Obama. We can anticipate the same old rural versus urban division. Key to our victory will be how the class warfare card plays in the rural areas. We need to inspire the country folks to get out and vote and to vote Republican. Quinipac currently has Governor John Kasich's approval at just 38%. A second poll from Public Policy Polling, a democratic polling entity has him at 33%. The quinnipiac poll also shows that SB5, the bill which ends collective bargaining rights for public sector employees, is supported by only 38% of the people polled. 50% of the people polled were opposed to it. The Quinnipiac Poll also has Obama's approval rating up at 49%. Ohio isn't going to be an easy win. A lot of political capital has been squandered on issues that weren't critical tea party issues. The price we pay for a little union busting may be severe.

[pnh102]

The price we pay for a little union busting may be severe.

And it is worth every penny of that political capital to destroy as many public sector unions as possible. Why should our tax money be used against us?

[buccaneer81]

SB5 will survive. And if it doesn’t, 50,000 layoffs take place the next day. Suits me. As an Ohio taxpayer, I win either way.

[vg0va3]

A vote could also bring home the fact that voters do not want a special class created for the union.

Right to work will win. Have confidence.

[arrogantsob]

That article does not sound accurate.

But nevertheless the unions are nuts if they think they are going to get more from the voters than from the governor.

However, the real purpose is to find new cadres to carry the state for the RATS next election.

[Pearls Before Swine]

S.B. 5, pushed by Gov. John Kasich (R), eliminates the rights of 350,000 public employees to bargain for middle-class jobs.

What a bunch of keyword propaganda--calling a privilege a right, and pretending the padded, politically favored union jobs are normal middle-class employment. But, many continue to fall for it, as the petition drive signature numbers and Kasich's low approval ratings show.

[kingu]

First and foremost, 35,000 members, and only 20,000 signatures collected? Just sit down, sign the papers, and you've got 35,000 signatures to start with. That's just plain embarrassing, especially to ‘brag’ about. That's not collecting signatures, that's letting ten people actually do the work while the rest pat themselves on the back.

Next, class warfare? Well, fine, engage in it. Look at those pampered government workers, draining you of money each and every step of the way - from the added costs on your electric bill to the extra costs at the pump, it's all going to line the pockets of whiny government workers. Stand up if you'd like to do their job for half of their salaries and half the benefits! Look, see, most are standing right now, knowing that half of their piece of pie is a feast for any normal person.

The problem is that our party as a whole doesn't engage the enemy, they skirt around it, they nuance it, and we get stuck with dumb ideas like No Teacher's Pension Left Behind. Pretty much every school district has had declining enrollment over the past ten years, a reduced work load, yet salaries are constantly going up, and so are the benefits and days off.

Everyone else has to become more efficient, or face losing their job, except these louts who can just walk out of work and go stage mega protests and still get paid for it.

Sure, we need class warfare. We need to beat apart these bloodsucking unions and the wishy washy party leaders that won't go after them. They work for us, dang it, not the other way around. Declining test scores, reduced entrance requirements for colleges, and business everywhere who have to basically teach their prospective young employees how to bloody make change! That's something every 1st grader should be able to do in their sleep, yet it appears to be nearly impossible for any high school graduate to accomplish.

And they whine they need more money - what are they whining for? The requirement that they have to ...get this... pay for part of their health care. Oh my gosh! That's.. heartless. They whine because they won't be able to walk out of their classrooms any dang time they feel like it. Yep, the horrible requirement to be at work to get paid for work.

You better believe we need class warfare, we need to hit them hard time and time again identifying how these parasites are chewing at the public dollar making it harder for everyone, while they whine about things that everyone else has to do.

As for these polls, I will remind you, there were two people running last November - Obama and McCain, and I know it's in the back of my mind every time someone complains about how bad the president is doing, that McCain likely would have back-stabbed us even more.

[dangus]

>> The 35,000 member Ohio Civil Service Employees Association/AFSCME (OCSEA/AFSCME) set a goal of gathering 60,000 voters’ signature. In a mere two weeks, OCSEA canvassers have collected more than 20,000 signatures to “Kill the Bill.” <<

Ooh, they got HALF their membership to sign in a mere two weeks. They still need to triple that in the next five. I’m not impressed.