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The Unknown Story of Pocahontas. Learning the story of Jamestown, Virginia's survival.
American Thinker ^ | 05/14/2011 | Charlotte Cushman

Posted on 05/14/2011 9:30:40 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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1 posted on 05/14/2011 9:30:46 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
The true history is so much better than any concocted story.

One point to which the author alludes needs to be expanded upon: Pocahontas/Rebecca's conversion to Christianity. This is a Faith which emphasizes a crucial truth about human nature: that we are being endowed with intelligence and free will, and we each face a struggle, a challenge, to become the people we were created to be: wise, just, benevolent, turthful, courageous, learning-oriented, able to reason with others and be reasoned-with by others.

The short way to say this is: Created in the image and likeness of God.

The right-reason propounded by the Christian faith was undoubtedly one of the things that attracted this excellent woman to embrace it, and encouraged her ability to live it.

2 posted on 05/14/2011 9:47:25 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be" said the Cat,"or you wouldn't have come here.")
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awesome


3 posted on 05/14/2011 9:54:25 AM PDT by raygunfan
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t our family ever considers any Walt Disney stories to be ‘real’. We tell our girls they are ‘movies’ which tell A story, but never the Truth.


4 posted on 05/14/2011 9:55:02 AM PDT by cetarist
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thanks seekandfind.


5 posted on 05/14/2011 10:04:49 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: SeekAndFind

Pocahontas was a big celebrity in England. Everyone wanted to meet her.


6 posted on 05/14/2011 10:15:18 AM PDT by texmexis best
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To: SeekAndFind
Actual history is always better than a Disney fabrication.

August 1610 my gx9 grandmother, at age 10, arrived at the Jamestown settlement. Actual family history is also better than fabrications, skeletons and all.

7 posted on 05/14/2011 10:24:43 AM PDT by Oorang (Tyranny thrives where government need not fear the wrath of an armed people - Alex Kozinski)
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“She has been involved in the study of Ayn Rand’s philosophy since 1970.”

The AUTHOR is an Ayn Rand fan. Ayn Rand was an in your face ATHEIST so sny thing Christian would be something she would NOT mention. What a pity. She missed the MAIN POINT.

Ayn Rand’s god was MONEY. She had NO TIME for God. Her life was based on money and her personal life was that of an ally cat in heat.


8 posted on 05/14/2011 11:15:01 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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There's always more and more to the Pocahontas story ~ and Disney didn't quite get it.

When she was a child she lived in a Village located on the bluffs above the site of "the three sisters" ~ which are rocks in the Potomac between Virginia and DC ~ and also a spiritual representation of "the three sisters" called Squash, Beans and Corn which sustain human life.

Smith and company met her there.

Chief Powhatan appears to have been paying tribute to the better organized Iroquois ~ and they controlled a vast swath of territory West of the Potomac and extending in places all the way to the Mississippi ("control" being a right to tribute from tributary tribes in the interior ~ a common American Indian method of influencing folks ~ also known in Siciliy for that matter).

Although European contact wasn't all that meaningful to the Powhatan Indians it did serve to push back the Iroquois ~ who would kill them if they didn't pay the required tribute. The English would just survey the land and push them aside ~ with a little payoff for their efforts in removing the brush.

Pocahontas is not the only Indian woman to marry a white guy and move to Europe. Some analysts suggest that MOST adult Indian women living in the Mid-Atlantic married a white guy and moved to Europe. At the same time Indian men in that area found it possible to gain positions as colorful and exotic "butlers" in English homes and estates ~ and did so in huge numbers.

Of course many Indian men and Indian women died early deaths in the harsher climate and poorer diet of Europe and England, but these were not stupid people who didn't understand the value of a job, a warm house, food on the table, and other benefits of civilization.

9 posted on 05/14/2011 11:19:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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Many movies tell the truth. If you pick them carefully enough for your kids (that means heading back to Old Hollywood and instructing the kiddies to appreciate black & white), they can grow up with a really good set of ethics.

I just showed my nephew the film The Devil and Daniel Webster. How the great lawyer and orator outsmarted The Devil (Mr. Scratch). A very beautiful, eerie film.


10 posted on 05/14/2011 11:36:33 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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Thank you, Seek and Find. Another wrinkle to this story is how Pocahontas is related to the Woodsons. One of her son’s descendants (there were 12) married into the Woodson family of VA. Woodson descendents are known as Red Woodsons in contrast to the other branches of the family known as White Woodsons. One of the Woodson children survived an Indian attack by hiding in the family root cellar in the potato bin. He was the only member of his family to survive the attack and was thereafter known as “Potato Hole Woodson”, a nickname he wore proudly for the rest of his life. I don’t remember if he was a Red Woodson, or a White Woodson.


11 posted on 05/14/2011 12:25:38 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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Pocahontas -- a portrait done during her visit to England. She died at 22.

12 posted on 05/14/2011 12:28:46 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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13 posted on 05/14/2011 12:30:12 PM PDT by dfwgator
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14 posted on 05/14/2011 12:31:43 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

Thanks for posting this item.

My waaaaaaay back grandparents were killed in the massacre at old Jamestown, led by Powhaten’s brother (Pocahontas’ uncle), wherein around 400 of the Virginia colonists died.

The man was the first of my surname to arrive in the colonies from England. Only their toddler son, about 2 years old, survived and is thought to have been raised by his maternal grandparents. Without him, my paternal line would not exist..... and neither would I.


15 posted on 05/14/2011 3:37:01 PM PDT by octex
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My 9th great grandfather, Richard Pace, helped to save many at Jamestown from this massacre by passing on an advance warning given to him by an Indian youth working/living in his home... hence my screen name!

Who was your ancestor who was killed in this attack?

16 posted on 05/14/2011 4:07:54 PM PDT by PacesPaines
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The true story of Pocahontas might be fascinating, but the real history of Jamestown that isn’t taught today is that it was basically a colony based on socialist/communist principles. This was established and agreed upon by the group before they ever left England.

Upon arriving at the New World, a lot of their hardships and famine was self inflicted. Each was to work to provide for the general good, or general stores, and were to receive from the general stores what their needs were. “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need”... sound familiar?

As is usual in socialism or communism, people have a problem slaving away, toiling long hours and generally working their butts off when they see the next door neighbor sitting back, taking it easy and drawing from the general stores the same as the hard working ones. It doesn’t take long for a rational person to wonder why should they work like crazy just so the lazy guy next door can sit back and enjoy things, getting the same from the stores as the hard workers.

Basically, it’s easier to be lazy and steal than it is to work hard and be productive. Just take a look at our welfare state today. Why work when the gubmint will give you all you need?

So, after several winter/years of severe hardship and famine, Bradford and the settlers needed to find a better way... or die. Thus, Bradford, as governor, parceled out the land to each family for them to do what they wanted with— and reap the fruits of their labors on it for themselves. Free- enterprise or laissez faire. Private property, trade free from government intervention.

That year the colony had greater stores than ever before and started to prosper dramatically. What did Bradford write about this amazing change?

“This had very good success, for it made all hands very industrious, so as much more corn was planted than otherwise would have been by any means the Governor or any other could use, and saved him a great deal of trouble, and gave far better content.”

Under the previous plan, communism, Bradford wrote:

“The strong … had no more in division of victuals and clothes than he that was weak and not able to do a quarter the other could; this was thought injustice…. Upon … all being to have alike, and all to do alike, they thought … one as good as another, and so … did … work diminish … the mutual respects that should be preserved amongst men.”

This is actually the real story that should be written and glorified and taught to our schoolchildren. Pocahontas is a nice story, but the real principle underlying Jamestown is that communism will not work. It has never worked, even with men of the strongest, most upright moral character, such as the Pilgrims in Jamestown. And it will never work in the future, as long as the human race is alive. I’m sure it doesn’t even work in the animal kingdom anywhere.

But Liberals will never get it through their heads. They think that if only they’re given enough money and power that they can make socialism/communism work. They will forever fail, yet will inflict the population with the results of their stupidity and ignorance of history while doing so, until their ultimate - and guaranteed - failure.

Forget Pocahontas. I want Gov. Bradford’s diaries taught in schools. They should be required reading for every grade. No child should graduate without knowing the true history of Jamestown and why it almost died... and why it subsequently prospered.


17 posted on 05/14/2011 5:19:18 PM PDT by hadit2here ("Most men would rather die than think. Many do." - Bertrand Russell)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’ve seen that! I saw it many years ago when my own kids were kids. It also was on “You Tube” awhile back in it’s entirety! Apparently, it was also titled: “All That Money Can Buy”. It’s not on there anymore, and that is a shame! Some parts of it were eerie; some were very funny, especially the end! Also, it’s interesting to note that the author of the short story that was the basis of the movie, was an anti-communist. He wrote that and other stories to warn people of communism!


18 posted on 05/14/2011 8:33:09 PM PDT by dsutah
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My ancestors killed in the massacre at Jamestown was Godfrey Ragsdale and his wife Elizabeth Heathcote; immigrants from England to the Virginia Colony ~ 1620.

Thanks for asking. ....If you’ve done research that might reveal info on my folks, please share via private mail.


19 posted on 05/15/2011 12:11:18 AM PDT by octex
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Yes, it has a wonderful performance by Walter Huston - Mr. Scratch. It’s based on a poem which became the basis of a play and then a movie. It’s available on DVD and it’s great for kids as well as adults. The trial sequence is scary!


20 posted on 05/15/2011 5:49:26 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (.)
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