[marbren]

Oh, I am glad you reminded me, Thank you for telling me about Cerinthus yesterday. I am quite sure I do not agree with everything he says, I believe he was gnostic? I do feel he was right about a coming literal coming 1000 kingdom. He may be confused about what happens there. It is still a bit of a mystery. Right now my conviction IMHO is our Lord Jesus Christ will rule the world both Jews and Gentiles during the 1000 years from a possibly "hovering" Heavenly New Jerusalem. A resurrected King David might sit on the earthly throne in Jerusalem and rule the Jews under the authority of Christ Jesus. This is just speculation on my part.

Oh I enjoy reading Gagdad Bob's book but don't agree with everything he says either.

[marbren]

I enjoy Jack and Roxanna VanImpe, I do not agree with him when he says this earth will last forever, I feel after 1000 years 2 Peter kicks in and fire destroys everything. The last thing being destroyed is death.

I enjoy watching Hal Lindsey but his soothing voice sometimes puts me to sleep.

I read and enjoyed Tim LaHaye's Left Behind series, maybe it could have been done in about 4 books, seemed to drag a bit. I am not sure Gog Magog happens before the rapture as Tim says and right now I am considering, though not as excitedly as a few weeks ago, that the antichrist may be muslim not European as Tim and Hal currently believe.

[Matchett-PI]

"Oh, I am glad you reminded me, Thank you for telling me about Cerinthus yesterday. .."

I wasn't referring you to Cerinthus in my previous post, I was referring you to post #151, ie: - Another example of pop-dispensationalism’s own brand of replacement theology

My post involving Cerinthus was in my earlier post - #147 - The Origins of Millennial Heresy.

You wrote: "I am quite sure I do not agree with everything he [Cerinthus] says, I believe he was gnostic? I do feel he was right about a coming literal coming 1000 kingdom. He may be confused about what happens there. ..."

You believe he was right because he says he got this doctrine directly "from an angel"? How can you say you don't agree with "everything" a very "angel" (so he says) gave him? TO WIT:

In Eusebius's Ecclesiastical History, Book III, Chapter 28, is preserved a fragment from the writings of Caius, who lived about the close of the second century, which gives us the following account of Cerinthus's heresy:

"But Cerinthus, too, through revelations written, as he would have us believe, by a great apostle, brings before us marvelous things, which he pretends were shown him by angels; alleging that after the resurrection the kingdom of Christ is to be on earth, and that the flesh dwelling in Jerusalem is again to be subject to desires and pleasures. And being an enemy to the scriptures of God, wishing to deceive men, he says that there is to be space of a thousand years for marriage festivities." "One of the doctrines he taught was, that Christ would have an earthly kingdom." ..."

You wrote: "...Oh I enjoy reading Gagdad Bob's book but don't agree with everything he says either."

Even HE doesn't agree with everything he said when he wrote it. Here is what he says about that:

"By the way, there was a time, not all that long ago (maybe 15 - 20 years ago), that I would have probably more or less agreed with Tolle. It has taken me many years to undo my secular educational brainwashing, and I'm sure that some of the errors that resulted from that crept into my book, much of which was written in the course of transitioning from more of a new age mentality to more of a traditionalist one. There are a lot of things I would express differently today." ~ Gagdad Bob ~ 6/01/2008 08:31:00 AM in the comment section HERE