Posted on 05/01/2011 10:49:54 AM PDT by Signalman
Dealership, or stealerships as we call them, are some of the biggest crooks in business, up there with the corrupt politicians. That is why I never buy new vehicles nor take any of my vehicles to a stealership.
No reason? Really?
Two simple yes or no questions for you:
1#. Do you think dirty oil and metallic particles are not remaining and clinging to engine parts after you quickly screw the drain plug back in?
Yes or no?
#2. Allowing engine oil to drain thoroughly does not help eliminate a good percentage of dirty oil and metallic particles?
Yes or no?
“Chrysler senior manager of automatic transmission engineering”
Funny, Chrysler’s manual says to change the fluid and filter and that is a required item to maintain the warrantee.
It is not hard to change the transmission fluid. This article makes it sound like voo-doo.
Yes or no?
Never had a problem with it. I didn't say quickly, I said wait until you no longer have a stream of oil, and that it drips. Usually about a drip every 15-20 seconds. That all depends on the oil temperature and recent use. That's also why I said to do it on an engine that has not been recently run.
The best way I've found is to drain it after it's sat, but still warm - an hour or so after driving, or even overnight in warm weather. There are spots in your engine that will never gravity drain completely - tops of rocker arms, little valleys, etc..., so it's overkill, you're still going to mix old with new.
A good filter and quality oil will do you better than wasting two hours of your time. Between my dad and me, we have over 80 years combined (50 for him and 30 for me) of anecdotal evidence that this works. Never lost an engine due to oil problems.
#2. Allowing engine oil to drain thoroughly does not help eliminate a good percentage of dirty oil and metallic particles?
Yes or no?
See #1.
What a wonderful Einstein quote!
(PS-I donated the first day of the FReepathon)
I knew you wouldn’t answer.
I asked you 2 direct simple questioning, and you compltely evaded both.
See my tag line.
No reason to leave the drain plug out for two hours
I asked you this:
1#. Do you think dirty oil and metallic particles are not remaining and clinging to engine parts after you quickly screw the drain plug back in?
Yes or no?
#2. Allowing engine oil to drain thoroughly does not help eliminate a good percentage of dirty oil and metallic particles?
Yes or no?
I know why you evaded the questions, because you were wrong, and you couldn't admit it and instead danced around and evaded the 2 questions.
That's pretty dang pathetic.
The world has been in chaos since Eve got Adam kicked out of the garden of Eden. If you can avoid one less headache I say read the post on transmission fluid. By the way do you know who the first carpenter was?
You anywhere near Albuquerque? ;-)
My rule of thumb is to never change the fluid if I wasn't the original owner of the car. Yes, filters and add new, where necessary, but never a total pressure flush. I learned from someone else's issue. That pressure flush, combined with the detergents in the new fluid, caused some gunk that was previously causing no harm, to break free and clog some important passages, and thus transmission failure.
THANK YOU!! I could have sworn the article was about transmissions and transmission fluid, not oil changes! It’s hard to sift through the posts that are correctly speaking to the article.
Leading question, and putting words into my mouth. I never said I quickly put the drain plug in. Direct answer? Yes, simply waiting for the majority of the oil to drain and quickly screwing the drain plug in will leave crap in your engine. I said your method was not necessary, and used my own experience over 30 years of my life, and 50 of my father's. We've never had an engine fail due to oil problems.
#2. Allowing engine oil to drain thoroughly does not help eliminate a good percentage of dirty oil and metallic particles?
Yes, draining thoroughly works.
You stated NO reason...
I certainly did. It was my experience. Which is what you stated as your reason.
I meant no malice, and apologize for calling your method unnecessary, as after I re-read what I posted, I realized that it would tick me off if it were done to me.
IYAS9YAS lets his engine oil drain for 4 minutes or so. I allow mine to drain for 2+ hours. Which one use has eliminated a better percentage of dirty oil and metallic particles from their engine?
lol...
Actually, on warm oil (not hot), it takes about 25-30 minutes. Either way, unless we both tear the engines down, take them to the shop, have them boiled clean, and then put them back together, we're both leaving used oil and crud in the engine.
Wow...You again evaded the question yet again... lol
Thanks for the laughs.
Wow...You again evaded the question yet again... lol
Thanks for the laughs.
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Glad you liked the quote, too. :-)
:o
I added that quote to my favorite quotes journal. I’m always on the lookout for a gem like that!
Again, you used a leading question, and put words in I did not use. Show me where I said that my oil drained for 4 minutes or so.
I stated my process took 25-30 minutes. So, certainly, you drain yours for 2 hours, and I drain my for 1/2 hour, there will likely be more drained from your engine. How much? Really, it's negligible. You figure eventually those drops will peter out to one a minute, then so on, so really, how much more are you draining? I'll bet it wouldn't fill a tablespoon. There's likely more than that sitting in those other spots in your engine that don't drain with gravity.
On top of that, many oil drain plugs do not sit directly on the bottom of the pan at exactly the lowest point, and those that don't can leave anywhere up to 1/4 inch of oil in your pan. Do you take your pan off every time and clean it out, too?
So, I answered your question again. You still keep coming at me like I slapped your face. I already apologized for that, but in your zeal to get me back, you likely didn't read that.
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