[AmericanVictory]

On the other hand, with regard to the phrase in question, Scalia, in colloquy, during a 2001 case, said on the record that the intent of the phrase was that the children of an American colonial woman and a British officer who married her during Britain's occupation of the colonies would have a child whose loyalties would be divided and that that was what the Framers wanted to prevent.

See the exchange between Mr. Justice Scalia and Mr. Davis in the transcript of the hearing in the case of Tuan Anh Nguyen v. INS, 533 U.S. 53 (2001).

There was no "hidden intent" involved in taking the phrase from Vattel at the time. It was an intention that was openly known and discussed. It was a part of common discourse of the time that what the phrase meant was born in the in the country of parents both of whom were citizens. You mistake "hidden" intent for what was a defintion accepted in the normal discourse of those involved.

[Abd al-Rahiim]

What a nice coincidence! I was looking at the oral arguments for Tuan Anh Nguyen, and I couldn't find what you said. I did, however, find the following:

• Ms Davis: I think it's... I think it's totally clear that jus sanguinis citizenship has a different history than naturalized citizenship and has traditionally by this Court as well as by Congress been treated differently.
• Justice Scalia: But has not been called natural born citizenship?

  I mean, isn't it clear that the natural born requirement in the Constitution was intended explicitly to exclude some Englishmen who had come here and spent some time here and then went back and raised their families in England?

  They did not want that.

  They wanted natural born Americans.

• Ms Davis: Yes, by the same token...
• Justice Scalia: That is jus soli, isn't it?
• Ms Davis: By the same token, one could say that the provision would apply now to ensure that Congress can't apply suspect classifications to keep certain individuals from aspiring to those offices.
• Justice Scalia: Well, maybe.

  I'm just referring to the meaning of natural born within the Constitution.

  I don't think you're disagreeing.

  It requires jus soli, doesn't it?

• Ms Davis: No, Your Honor, I do disagree with that.

  I believe that it encompasses jus sanguinis citizenship.

  Source

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  But if you can find where Justice Scalia said what you think he said, please do.

  Unless Justice Scalia is now an Obamanut, I think the issue is settled: if you got your citizenship by jus soli, you're a "natural-born citizen."