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To: Norm Lenhart

I predicted last week that when Obama released the long form Birth Certificate, it would contain the very information that would confirm the COLB and show he was born in Honolulu.

I was right. that just happened.

You called me an Obot for telling the truth. Here you are again spouting more nonsense and trying to confuse the issue. The release of this copy of the original birth certificate lays this fully to rest, confirms the points in #1 to #10 and enables us to be more definitive that Obama was born in Honolulu.

It’s sad and pathetic that you are clinging to false conspiracy theories, but more pathetic that you feel a need to stalk me with your dumb comments. Discussing with you is pointless. Just because you cant handle the truth doesnt give you license to personally those you disagree with. Get a life.


So let’s go through the logical sequence of what the newspaper announcement DOES tell us and why it’s highly dispositive to Obama being born in Honolulu:

1) The Newspaper announcements prove that someone either phoned in a birth announcement or it was gotten from DOH records.
2) The practice and the format and the category of the birth announcements, and the fact that 2 newspapers had similar lists in exact same order, indicate that in fact these announcements were derived from DOH records.
3) This indicates that DOH indeed *had* records on Obama’s birth.
4) Confirming this, we know DOH has Obama’s records on file today.
This information is public:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
Birth Index
Obama II, Barack Hussein
Male
5) WE FURTHER KNOW A VERY IMPORTANT POINT - those records were submitted/filed/accepted between Aug 4th and Aug 13th, the newspaper publication date, so the Obama birth records were created during that week.
6) I would submit to you that #5, #3 and #4 are the MOST IMPORTANT POINTS. You can try to fake something in your past, but you cant go back into your past to do it. Obama has had Hawaii birth records since August 13th (or before) 1961. Key!
6) So, then we consider the COLB - it has a filing date of Aug 8th, consistent with #5.
7) On the COLB the birth cert # for Obama is close to Nodyke twins coming from Kapiolani on same day. This tells us that at least its not some randomly wrong number. But it also is a strong indicator that Obama was born in Kapiolani as well, as his form was either in a similar or same batch or processed at similar time, which would happen with forms from same hospital.
8) The COLB information is not inconsistent with the newspaper announcement information (despite the false disputing of his parents’ marriage)
9) In order to get a DOH record, if you just walk it in, you will need the corroborating evidence, which the original birth certificate and information from the birthing doctor or midwife. Such forms would have to brought in to their office. Both #7 and the timeline is why a birth outside Honolulu is practically impossible. You’d have to fly the mother, the baby, and the original birth certificate to the DOH by August 13th at the latest, in order to get the DOH records. Why would a newborn son have to travel with their mother and risk sickness from a flight halfway across the pacific, just to get a DOH record in time for a pro forma tiny birth announcement? They wouldnt. They couldnt. They’d wait and do it later.

10) There might be a theoretical possibility of a midwife home delivery in Honolulu and then a walkup submission of birth certificate, but then that fact would have been the family recollection; rather the family story is that Barack Obama was born at Kapiolani. Again, any such submission would not have been done as quickly as with a hospital; there’s no rush. Moreover, he’d still be born in Honolulu. For any non-hospital delivery outside of hawaii, phew, #9 plus the problem of getting the right paperwork to get state records.

So, there it is: the timeline is why the newspaper announcements help confirm that Obama was born in Honolulu.
Obama had Hawaii records on file (in fact according to the COLB 4 days after birth) that would not have been created so soon after his birth if he was not born in a hospital in Hawaii.


36 posted on 04/27/2011 6:54:03 PM PDT by WOSG
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To: WOSG

is that you, hummblegunner-
look, tammy wynnette is singing your song too


47 posted on 04/27/2011 7:21:49 PM PDT by paythefiddler (redefeat communism)
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