Posted on 04/26/2011 6:45:30 PM PDT by wendy1946
The following two web pages address the pre-flood system and nature of the flood, as well as the question of who else (aside from Noah) might have made any sort of a major effort to leave prior to the cosmic **** storm's arrival.
The Nature of the Pre-Flood System, and the Origin of the Flood Waters
UFOs, Space Aliens, Ancient Astronauts and the Like
As to the Bible version of the flood, the story of the flood itself is true; the idea that God or anybody in the spirit realm might have wiped the entire system like that over any sort of a conduct problem is certainly an embellishment.
How does one go about proving a negative? Not snipin', just askin'.
No simple answer.
It kind of "unbundled" at roughly the time the Sumerians were learning to count and write ~ and probably passed quite close to Earth as it was slowed into an orbit a bit closer to the Sun.
Venus, BTW, is Ishtar, the Sumerian chief goddess. There's a story about Inkydoo you need to look at since Inkydoo was created After Gilgamesh (who may be the Moon), and he had lots of hair (like a cometary body).
Depending on how close this now Venerian moon got to the Earth, if it came across the Mediterranean basin close enough it would have pulled up plenty of water to both cut a channel to the Black Lake so it could become the Black Sea, and create locally disastrous floods for everybody between Spain and New Guinea ~ water rising as high as the mountains in a gravitational battle between this little moon and the Earth.
With the Sumerians the ONLY people on the planet with writing at the time their story would become the basis of the whole flood mythos. As writing spread, the flood story spread.
It simply didn't state that it didn't rain.
A comet or asteroid theory would not account for the thing about the axis tilts. The only thing that really accounts for that is a larger star capturing a smaller one.
I wasn’t there, and neither were you.
Please provide sources for statements such as “Ra was definitely Saturn” and the like. You’ll also have to explain why Jupiter was worshiped as such over two thousand years AFTER the flood (assumed to be sometime previous to 2,000 BC) into the centuries after the Crucifiction, rather than suddenly being switched to the sun (associated with Phobos Apollo all the while). Your timeline doesn’t support your thesis when viewed against the timeline of the Bible itself and the historical record.
GEN 2:6 But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
I was afraid you’d say, “Ask again later” or “The answer is hazy now.”
:^)
There are two types of planets. One type have rocky cores (Earth, Mars, Venus, Mercury, Jupiter). The other type have nothing but gas ~ Saturn, Uranus, Neptune.
If you don't care to work with the "gas blew away" theory you have to come up with some other theory, but mathematically there are several dozen ways all the planets can be accounted for in their present orbits.
I'm finding it interesting that so terribly many suns out there have close in gas giants ~ just like an Early Solar System could have had.
One recent theory backed up with some factoids says the cool down of the Solar system hereabouts happened too fast for gas giants to form close to the Sun.
Been running that one through my mind ~suggests our early sun S L O ... W....E...........D >>>> D O W............N right off the bat ~ which suggests that maybe it got a huge slug of Helium from the original nebula.
Someday we'll find out, of course.
One time only event ~ BTW, I think eventually we find the original story buried in Ur.
A resurgence of Velikovskyism? Kookiest thing I’ve ever seen on FR.
Richard C. Hoagland, is that you?
Can you cite a reference about Plato on this?
PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: THEODORUS; SOCRATES; THE ELEATIC STRANGER; THE YOUNGER SOCRATES....
"Str. Suppose that the nurslings of Cronos[antediluvians], having this boundless leisure, and the power of holding intercourse, not only with men, but with the brute creation, had used all these advantages with a view to philosophy....."
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“the idea that God or anybody in the spirit realm might have wiped the entire system like that over any sort of a conduct problem is certainly an embellishment.”
Ya, certainly “no consequences” for our behavior in this life......
....Noah and the ark as the loan surviving family....just more history for you to dismiss?
No, it's not possible.
There are far too many amateur astronomers looking at the moon with equipment that can see enough detail to know whether we have landed on/explored the moon.
You cannot keep that many people silent on that subject.
From the same account:
"...But until some satisfactory witness can be found of the love of that age for knowledge and: discussion, we had better let the matter drop, and give the reason why we have unearthed this tale, and then we shall be able to get on."
Seems clear to me that Plato understands this as a myth.
That isn’t the point. The point is that one of Plato’s characters refers to antediluvians as “nurselings of Cronos” in such a natural way without bothering to explain the reference, i.e. he took for granted that the whole world of his age understood the reference.
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