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TRUMP: Obama "weak and ineffective" on almost every issue including Libya (just now on Greta)
Fox News Channel | 04/21/2011 | (live on FNC)

Posted on 04/21/2011 7:14:17 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network

Very good phone interview going on right now on Greta's show.

Trump is venturing into foreign policy.

So far so good.


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To: eyedigress

“For the last 20 years all Presidents have embraced the NWO. He will have a tough road to say the least.”

Trying to find out if he is a member of the Illuminati. Realistically what are his positions on:

gun rights
illegal aliens
perpetual unemployment and welfare benefits
the Federal Reserve
Balanced Budget amendment
Foreign aid, NPR aid, Arts aid, Planned Parenthood aid, etc.
Departments of Educaation, HEW, Energy
Offshore drilling
Cap & trade
Right to work laws
Defense of marriage act; gays in military

Being aggressive with the propoganda media on birth cert is great but Trumpettes need to open the whole package to see if a rhinoceros is really inside.

What it all comes down to is your preference: Is it try to defeat Obummer with “anybody” who might have a chance or try to defeat Obummer with a “principled conservative” that will bring about REAL change?

Trump is borrowing from the Reagan playbook, but he is no Reagan.


101 posted on 04/21/2011 8:30:58 PM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: eyedigress
The 5th amendment allows for it. I would like to reiterate “just” compensation.

Bull! Not for taking private property to increase a tax base or to give to another private party.

102 posted on 04/21/2011 8:32:12 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

You don’t want to notice that.

You are ready to bring down America to “go Galt”, willfully disregarding there are any number of hostile powers - much less considerate of human rights than America has been during “our” century - which will crush American like a bug if that happens.

Enthusiastically.


103 posted on 04/21/2011 8:32:48 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: eyedigress
BTW Mussolini would just take it.

Exactly! By the rule of law put in place in Italy he would exert control over private businesses and take property to give to his favored businesses. Is that in any way a Constitutional principle of this Republic?

104 posted on 04/21/2011 8:35:02 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye
"Having an understanding of individual liberty, the rule of law (not the majority) and a commitment to those principles usually clarifies those kinds of questions"

In the matter of eminent domain, individual liberty clashes with the rule of law and the rule of law wins.

Because Trump supports and uses the rule of law does not make him or me a commie.

105 posted on 04/21/2011 8:35:58 PM PDT by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: secondamendmentkid

The only one who looks like RWR happens to be RWR. All of these points must be addressed before I consider him at all. He is answering a very loopy presidency that has NO DOCTRINE and NO COMPASS.

If Obama does have a doctrine, it makes absolutely no sense at all.


106 posted on 04/21/2011 8:36:28 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

You can make all the assumptions about me you want to. Doesn’t make them true or Trump a conservative.


107 posted on 04/21/2011 8:37:15 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Souled_Out

Is that how you feel about Roe vs. Wade?


108 posted on 04/21/2011 8:38:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

How about you let Mr. Trump show what he’s about, before you make assumptions about him.

He might be faking.

But nobody else is doing anything or saying these things.

So what good are they? We are in the prototypical “lead, follow or get out of the way” mess.

Complaining last I checked, ain’t actually on that list.


109 posted on 04/21/2011 8:40:16 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: TigersEye

The justification has been perverted of course. I’m just letting you know that the founders created a provision to take property for “public use”. That definition is far and reaching.


110 posted on 04/21/2011 8:40:54 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: TigersEye
"You make it sound like the President’s political views are unimportant."

That is not my intent, the point I was attempting to make is that the President is not a Dictator, his power is balanced by members of a representative republic that we elect.

He can nominate SCOTUS candidates but they are ratified by our elected candidates.

Once again, if you do not like the law, vote for Senators and Congressmen that will change it.

111 posted on 04/21/2011 8:41:17 PM PDT by Souled_Out (Our hope is in the power of God working through the hearts of people.)
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To: Souled_Out
You are right about other countries being pissed off, but who cares, they do not like us now.

I think we are talking a lot more than being pissed off here. Think carefully about what it would mean to arbitrarily start seizing other nations oil fields. That would likely spark conflicts and would affirm every conspiracy theory the craziest of Muslims ever had about us. We don't have the money for additional wars that may result anyway.

We are not trying to win a popularity contest by electing Donald, we are trying to tell the world "the game is over".

We are almost certainly not going to elect Trump, so this is all academic anyway. Saying that, if we did we would have blown a historic opportunity by electing someone who simply isn't a conservative in any way shape or form. With Trump there is no reason to believe he'd nominate conservatives to replace Scalia, Kennedy or Thomas on the Supreme Court, we wouldn't have a President who actually understood the conservative arguments against public sector unions, etc, etc, etc, etc. Trump is NOT a conservative, why would any conservatives support someone who is not a conservative?

We are not the "United Suckers of America" and once we have the oil of Iraq and Libya we will have plenty of friends that want to buy cheap oil.

This is not going to happen anyway. These positions Trump is taking at the moment on seizing Iraqi and/or Libyan oil are so outlandish and ridiculous that he couldn't follow through with them even if he were elected.

Again Trump is not a conservative. When you really look at what he is saying regarding things like unions, infrastructure, etc, he is essentially arguing populist progressive positions. So is he a conservative simply because he throws birther red meat to the base?

112 posted on 04/21/2011 8:41:24 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
How about you let Mr. Trump show what he’s about, before you make assumptions about him.

I posted a quote in his own words. Is that what you call an assumption?

113 posted on 04/21/2011 8:47:01 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Longbow1969

He affirmed his position on Libya. If he must go in he is taking it. Right now the M.E. and Europe buys Libya’s oil. He stays out of it. If the USA goes in, we take it.


114 posted on 04/21/2011 8:48:57 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: eyedigress
The justification has been perverted of course.

Then why bother arguing in its defense?

I’m just letting you know that the founders created a provision to take property for “public use”.

As if that were something I didn't know or is relevant to the perversion that Trump thinks is a good thing?

115 posted on 04/21/2011 8:49:29 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: TigersEye

Thank you for your thoughts, but we’re just talking in circles. Not much point really to that.

Have a nice evening, and a Good Friday.


116 posted on 04/21/2011 8:50:21 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (Birther on Board)
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To: Souled_Out

Now you’re making it sound like the President’s views are irrelelevant because Congress will balance them out.


117 posted on 04/21/2011 8:50:58 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Prokopton
Universal healthcare has been, is now, and will continue to be available in this country. The only fight is who is going to control it and how it will be paid for.

Yes, anyone with an emergency can go to a public hospital and be treated. No question about it. The problem is Donald Trump, last time he weighed in on the issue at least, favored a Canadian style single payer universal health care system that goes FAR beyond what Obamacare does in terms of empowering government.

Here is Trump the last time he ran a vanity Presidential campaign in 2000:

The goal of health care reform, wrote Trump, should be a system that looks a lot like Canada. "Doctors might be paid less than they are now, as is the case in Canada, but they would be able to treat more patients because of the reduction in their paperwork,"

Again, Trump is not a conservative. Period. His criticisms of Obama and the policy positions that he's been arguing could just as easily, minus the birther stuff, come from someone on the far progressive left.

118 posted on 04/21/2011 8:53:41 PM PDT by Longbow1969
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To: TigersEye

That makes no sense to me. “Just Compensation” is the rule.


119 posted on 04/21/2011 8:54:27 PM PDT by eyedigress ((Old storm chaser from the west)?)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
I think directly showing the emptiness of your accusation is not going in circles. Calling a direct quote an assumption and calling you out on it is more like shutting you down.

Have a good Thursday.

120 posted on 04/21/2011 8:55:33 PM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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