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Compost equates slavery with tax cuts!

I came across this dull & unremarkable article about the Civil War. This media template comment jumped out at me.

So poor white Southerners supported slavery then, just as many low-income people support the extension of George W. Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy now.

1 posted on 04/02/2011 6:50:03 AM PDT by jrushing
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They really are pathetic.


2 posted on 04/02/2011 6:52:58 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Obama Sucks)
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"So poor white Southerners supported slavery then, just as many low-income people support the extension of George W. Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy now."

The tax cuts were for all income levels in that the entire federal income tax rates were lowered. Why do "journalists" continue to lie that the 2003 tax cuts were only for the rich?

3 posted on 04/02/2011 6:53:26 AM PDT by avacado
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I don’t want to start anything here but the South was right.


5 posted on 04/02/2011 7:36:54 AM PDT by Rappini (Pro Deo et Patria)
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To claim that slavery would have ended of its own accord by the mid-20th century is impossible to disprove but difficult to accept. In 1860, slavery was growing more entrenched in the South. Unpaid labor makes for big profits, and the Southern elite was growing ever richer. Freeing slaves was becoming more and more difficult for their owners, as was the position of free blacks in the United States, North as well as South. For the foreseeable future, slavery looked secure. Perhaps a civil war was required to end it.

The author is certainly right about the proximate cause of the Civil War, it was about slavery. Reading the words of those states that seceded make that point clear. But, the paragraph above reveals a complete lack of understanding about the eventual fate of the hideous practice. Slavery was gone in the Western Hemisphere and in European societies by the end of the 19th Century. It endures today in Africa and Muslim societies

Economics plays a large role in that fact. Industrialization is a major reason why. As manufacturing and mechanized agriculture began to gain sway, the economic foundation for slavery waned. While the cotton gin was probably an example that demonstrated the opposite effect, over time advances in industrial society would have produced cheaper methods of producing cotton than was possible with slave labor. Slaves were very expensive, and became much more so in the waning years. The Royal Navy had put a halt to the Atlantic Slave trade, so new slaves were only available through natural increase. That wasn't enough and prices as shown in bills of sale, estate papers, and wills reflect the supply and demand problem. With so much wealth tied up in slave labor, the South was not about to freely relinquish their fortunes. Look at what happened in Wisconsin when the Governor tried to get state employees to pay for part of their health. People get very worked up when their family fortune comes under threat.

6 posted on 04/02/2011 7:52:40 AM PDT by centurion316
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What is pathetic is a lot of Southern hating anti-Free Republic jerks agree with this.


8 posted on 04/02/2011 8:04:16 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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This article and this author are fairly thick-headed and not historical at all. I descend from mostly non-slaveholding southerners, with a few who were. To try and paint nonslaveholders as ignorant white trash aspiring to the gentry might work for the fools in northern Virginia, but it doesn’t work in North Carolina or anywhere in the inland Piedmont and upland south.

Here, there were numerous groups of religious dissenters who settled, that did not believe in slavery. Quakers, Moravians, Mennonites, they just did not do it, or largely did not in the case of Moravians, who frowned upon the practice and welcomed blacks into their churches, but did not forbid the practice outright.

Those who fought, fought for their State, capitalized. State. It weighed in on a level of equal importance with country in that era. Many believed they were re-fighting the Revolution, and looking at the principles at stake that get completely glossed past in all the finger-pointing over slavery, they were right. You can thank the victors of the Civil War for the Federal leviathan of today.

These simplistic so-called “analyses” are thick on the ground and almost uniformly uninformed. It’s not as if the migratory patterns and the history aren’t available for all who can crack a book or even click a fr***ing button on a computer keyboard.

Propaganda. That’s all it is.


11 posted on 04/02/2011 8:15:10 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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I don't know why they started the civil war, but I know why they lost...


14 posted on 04/02/2011 8:34:06 AM PDT by stormer
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What liberals and blacks have forgotten is that the Democratic Party was the party of slavery...and still is. The Democratic Party counted on blacks to be stupid and they have been.


15 posted on 04/02/2011 8:34:50 AM PDT by CodeToad (Islam needs to be banned in the US and treated as a criminal enterprise.)
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So poor white Southerners supported slavery then, just as many low-income people support the extension of George W. Bush's tax cuts for the wealthy now.

Or maybe they understand economics better than you do.

Or maybe they are not consumed with envy the way you are.

Or maybe they don't feel entitled so seize other peoples' property the way you do.

What a jackass.

20 posted on 04/02/2011 9:49:41 AM PDT by jtal
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BTW, this author wrote the ridiculously bad book, “Lies My Teacher Told Me,” of which his is the biggest.


22 posted on 04/02/2011 11:37:39 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." (Hendrix))
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Deja-vu all over again. This article wasn't worth posting back in January, but was. It hasn't gotten any more worth posting or getting riled up about three or four months later.

Loewen's main points are common knowledge and generally agreed upon interpretations. The rest is his own personal agenda -- plugs for his book, obligatory Bush bashing. Neither the standard stuff or his own spin is that useful or interesting.

24 posted on 04/02/2011 11:58:32 AM PDT by x
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