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To: TheBigIf

“The Confederacy, the Progressive movement, the People’s party, the KKK, were ALL democrat created and run.”

The Progressive Party, aka known as the Bull Moose Party, formed out of a split within the GOP in 1912 and ran Teddy Roosevelt as its candidate. It ran against both Democrat Woodrow Wilson and Republican William Howard Taft.

‘The Civil War in the United States’ is a collection of contemporaneous essays by a couple of English journalists, one Karl Marx and Frederick Engels. They certainly thought that the Civil War was a progressive affair, the progressive side being Lincoln and the Union against the reactionary conservatives of the south. I have a copy but I believe the entire book can be found on the internet for those interested in the history of “progressive” political theory.

“Wilson the first democrat President after the Civil war filled much of cabinet with Confederate democrats”

I’d be curious to learn who these Confederate Democrats were who you think filled Wilson’s cabinet.

McAdoo of New York at Treasury? McReynolds of New York, attorney general? Lindley M. Garrison, New Jersey, at the War Dept? Wilson of Pennsylvania at Labor? Surely there must have been someone who flew the Stars and Bars, so help us find him!

And worse, you mean poor old Grover Cleveland, with his two non-consecutive terms as President, doesn’t count? Cleveland, elected in both 1884 and 1892, was a ‘Bourbon Democrat’, which was about as far from a progressive as you can get.


120 posted on 03/20/2011 12:38:33 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's most recent colony.)
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To: Pelham

It is well known about Wilson’s allegiance to the Confederates and it is also well known that the birth of the Progressive movement contained elements that originated frmom both the republican and democrat party.

It was though the democrats (Confederates) who brought about the full blown birth of the Progressive moevement with the Wilson Presidency.

Here is a quick blurb by Jonah Glodberg who has studied much of this:

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/182307/obama-confederacy-and-woodrow-wilson/jonah-goldberg

There is a lot of history of the alliances between the Progressive movement and the Confederate movement. The Poeple’s party (a Confederate democrat movement) endorsed Woodrow Wilson and of course it is well known that Wilson endorsed another Confederate movement (the KKK).

In many ways it was the Confederate democrats who were very simliat to Qaddafi being that they wanted power at all costs. Secession was an attempt to throw away the Constitution and to rule supreme over their slaves. The Confederates even formed terrorist groups such as the KKK such as Qaddafi uses terrorism for the same means to hold power.

Both the Confederates and the Progressive democrats that followed shortly after supported this type of disregard for the rule of law and the use of terrorism.

The Lost Causers could deny all of this if they want but the truth will catch up to them and they will be exposed. They are the birth of all of the anti-Constitution politics that we see in America today. The Confederate democrats were the birth of today’s Progressive democrat party.


126 posted on 03/20/2011 2:06:18 PM PDT by TheBigIf
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To: Pelham

My God, you’ve got some tall boots (and probably a sturdy shovel), old friend. Thank you for making reference to the so-called Progressive/Communist involvement with regard to the War of Northern Aggression. Keep making steaks out of those old sacred cows, Pelham.


139 posted on 03/20/2011 8:58:48 PM PDT by Das Outsider
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