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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve heard your argument my entire life. It is wrong logically, but more importantly wrong Biblically. Now if you do not want to go there I do not blame you.

To read sexualization into everything tells more about you than the object you are attacking. Listen to Third Day, if you are drifting to sexual thoughts there is something seriously wrong with you. Even that said, I can support my stance on Love songs that have no “Christian” theme. It is amazing how God used marriage to illustrate his love for us. Have you read the Song of Solomon? I suggest you don’t if you are sensitive.


29 posted on 02/24/2011 12:26:13 PM PST by st.eqed
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To: st.eqed

I love reading Song of Solomon to my wife. She gets all blushy. :-)


31 posted on 02/24/2011 12:29:58 PM PST by NELSON111
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To: st.eqed

Hey don’t get me wrong, there is a place for romantic songs. All I am saying is don’t kid yourself about the music you’re listening to. And realize that there’s a place for secular music, just don’t try to claim it’s by any means Christian. Rock music is secular music.

What I find interesting is that you somehow want to make a distinction on the words but not the music. Try some hard core rock and try singing something beautiful to it, it won’t work.

Pop rock is secular music. Hard rock is secular. Top 40 is secular. Techno rock is secular. Punk rock is secular. Thrash is secular. Speed metal rock is secular. You want to somehow claim music isn’t secular just because they change the words but keep the music secular? I don’t buy it.

Further, if you are claiming this is true, that if you change the words but play secular music, and THAT is now spirutual and Christian, then are you also willing to then point to every band that has lines praising the devil and satan and killing off believers and telling people hell’s a great place to be, also as spiritual (un Christian) and in fact, anti-christian? Like Dio’s Holy Diver (where the cover shows a demon drowning a tied up priest), AC-DC’s “Highway to Hell”, Kiss’ “Heaven’s on Fire”, etc, etc etc? Dio by the way claims he is a Christian.

All I an say is my observations from watching people dance to secular music and so-called christian rock songs. I’ve seen the video of crowds at Christian thrash and Christian punk concerts. They are acting no different than their secular counterparts and much of the time you can’t even tell what they’re saying.

You can’t separate the spiritual from the music. It does make a difference.

Put it this way, if you’d put Christian thrash on in your church and think it’s totally wonderful and God-approved, you are the one that has the problem. These are people who are trying to claim they are putting out a spiritual message by wrapping it up in a more palatable, worldly veneer.

They all look like secular rock musicians. Their videos are all shot to look just like any other rock video. You think because some of them have cross tattoos or wear a cross or say “Thank You Jesus!” that sets them apart? Secular folks wear crosses and thank Jesus after the touchdown.


47 posted on 02/24/2011 1:20:23 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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