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To: devere
We are living through an anti-constitutional coup. It must be ended. The feud between "Birthers," and "Constitutionalists," is based on false premises and has been inspired by Team Obama, a well funded and well directed machine, the objective of which is to create confusion. The term "Birther" was successfully made one of derision by Team Obama, whch has won every fight in every legal venue where it was at issue.

NEWSFLASH! There are "anti-Birthers" on this site.

Some feel all this focus on where he may have been born and the concomitant Birth Certificate are a misdirection sponsored by Team Obama itself. Their objective: Take the collective eye off the "Natural Born Citizen" issue. In achieving that objective, Team Obama has succeeded.

It is of no help that many of those stuck on the "born in Hawaii issue" frankly manifest a very low level of legal literacy and confusion and are just venting anger and frustration. Some are so ridiculously out of line that IMHO, they could only be planted trolls. Having Obama's Birth Certificate is great idea! How do you do that?

It is entirely possible that Obama was born in Hawaii. It is unlikely, but nonetheless possible. He has not proven it. We have not disproven it. All we can say is that powerful forces are hard at work to prevent us from proving it ... which is not the same thing. Not even a valid Hawaiian Birth certificate would necessarily prove it, because they were issued to many foreign born children.

Regardless of the PLACE of birth, it is impossible in historical context that Obama is a Natural Born Citizen as required by Article II.

The two sides come together in that a Birth Certificate would officially establish that the official father was not an American citizen. But dual citizenship has already been revealed by Obama himself, in his "autobiography," and on that COLB thing displayed on line. So it matters not a whit if he were born in Hawaii or not. Has a Birth certificate, or not. Or whether he is a Native Born Citizen or not. COTUS says "Natural Born," not NATIVE born.

Team Obama originally solved the candidate's ineligibility dilemma by simply and boldly declaring that he was qualified. Whether they suspected otherwise is a moot point. That is all that has been required. This declaration was accepted by the National Democratic Party, by the Democratic Party in every state, by the 50 Election Committees and AGs of every state, placing Obama on the ballot in 50 states. He won the popular vote in most states, and was voted into office by the Electoral College, not one member of which disputed his declaration, and the Democratic Party's Declaration, that he was constitutionally qualified. He was sworn in by the Chief Justice of the SCOTUS.

The end of the story is that a constitutionally unqualified person, perhaps by fraud as in the case of Chester Arthur, is the sitting POTUS, and now can only be removed by Impeachment in the House and Conviction in the Senate, by voluntary resignation from office, or by a declaration of incompetence by the Congress. None of which is likely.

What would a reasonable man do?
(1): Concentrate on what we can do to curtail Obama's power over the time he remains in office. There will be no birth certificate forthcoming for Obama. There will be no legal means of having a court rule him unqualified in the time remaining in his term. Barring unforeseen circumstances, He will be the sitting President until 2012. We have to deal with it, if not accept it.

(2): Pass laws in every state demanding documentary proof that Presidential candidates meet the standard of Natural Born Citizen, i.e., be the offspring of two American Citizens at the time of birth. Even if no such laws are passed, State election Boards and AGs have the power to remove ineligible candidates from the ballot in their states right now! They are under no obligation to accept anyone's Declaration of Eligigbility. They have the power to demand proof, right now. They obviously did not see fit to exercise that power in 2008. Perhaps, even if no state laws are passed, they will do it in 2012. This issue is more than about Obama. Given the changing demographic, it is likely that the offspring of illegal aliens will be a candidate, inspired by the Obama "precedent."

211 posted on 01/27/2011 8:36:03 AM PST by Kenny Bunk (America might survive Obama. It cannot survive those who vote for him)
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To: Kenny Bunk
Almost everything you typed made perfect sense. I'll not nit pick, and from your post and other posts here on this thread a grand article could be written exposing obama in no uncertain terms....imho
212 posted on 01/27/2011 9:06:48 AM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Bless and Protect Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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