[Will88]

Yeah, Red China does capitalism so well that almost 15% of their people benefit from it.

[cripplecreek]

The pro China crowd endlessly tries to convince us that prosperity equals freedom. The british were attempting to do the same in the days leading to the revolution. They said look at the wonderful trinkets you have by being subordinate to us but the colonists were on to the scam and having no more of it.

The last couple of questions the House of Commons asked of Ben Franklin are pretty telling.

Q. What used to be the pride of the Americans?

A. To indulge in the fashions and manufactures of Great Britain.

Q. What is now their pride?

A. To wear their old clothes over again till they can make new ones.

[PGR88]

Yeah, Red China does capitalism so well that almost 15% of their people benefit from it.

YES! Once again, TIME takes one of the over-hyped issues of the day, and issues a milktoast opinion that is exactly wrong. Mao set the conditions for today's "success" in China. Yes, China allows small and light industry to operate somewhat freely (under Gov't and Party supervision, of course), but the remainder is state-owned, and state-directed, crony capitalism at its worst. 10-15% of people, those close to the levers of power, do well - The average Chinese worker or farmer is still, ultimately, a slave to the state, where the goals are still "production."