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To: Just mythoughts

>>There is nothing I wrote you that had anything to do with anticipation of an audience let alone an applause... Over and OUT!!!<<

It was NOT meant as a slam on you. Sorry. :)

The thing about all these speculations regarding the world of Genesis, which you aptly point out was written a LONG time after the fact by someone that was not there when it happened, are that they are just that - speculations. Sure, one can infer all sorts of things from what Peter, et-al say about the beginning, but even then we have a tendency to “read between the lines” things that are not really there.

My basic position on this is that we can no more know much about the genesis events than what the bible says IN Genesis than we can know the day or the hour of Jesus’ return. Whenever people get pretty “strong” in their opinion on what it says that is not in the plain text, alarms start going off in my head.

The quote of the line from the Genesis song was just my way of saying that we all tend to, when we think we may have found something there that nobody else noticed, we have a natural tendency to try to bring others along. And there is a bit of the natural man that really WANTS to be right, for it shows we deserve the applause.

I still defer to my comment about the bible attempting to explain red to a person that only sees grayscale. And it actually does a pretty good job. But the bottom line is that in this life we see as through a mirror, darkly.


102 posted on 01/20/2011 11:44:04 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: RobRoy
It was NOT meant as a slam on you. Sorry. :) The thing about all these speculations regarding the world of Genesis, which you aptly point out was written a LONG time after the fact by someone that was not there when it happened, are that they are just that - speculations. Sure, one can infer all sorts of things from what Peter, et-al say about the beginning, but even then we have a tendency to “read between the lines” things that are not really there. My basic position on this is that we can no more know much about the genesis events than what the bible says IN Genesis than we can know the day or the hour of Jesus’ return. Whenever people get pretty “strong” in their opinion on what it says that is not in the plain text, alarms start going off in my head. The quote of the line from the Genesis song was just my way of saying that we all tend to, when we think we may have found something there that nobody else noticed, we have a natural tendency to try to bring others along. And there is a bit of the natural man that really WANTS to be right, for it shows we deserve the applause. I still defer to my comment about the bible attempting to explain red to a person that only sees grayscale. And it actually does a pretty good job. But the bottom line is that in this life we see as through a mirror, darkly.

I personally can give NO plausible reason why I would be so blessed to have been born as a citizen of these United States. Certainly is not because of anything 'good' about me.

So I sought to weight out WHY would one nation exceed to such prosperity and what could not be called anything else but blessed and protected. And it sure is NOT that we as peoples deserved it more than any other peoples.

What was 'different' about US? And there it was in our Declaration of Independence....

http://www.ushistory.org/Declaration/document/

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security. — Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States. To prove this, let Facts be submitted to a candid world.

But of course 'man/woman' never perfect, had to have an attitude adjustment in what constitutes 'man'. And so in course of time the people came to see the error of their ways.

The evidence to me personally of The Creator is who He says He was and is and will always be flows from being 'graced' to have been born in a nation that from its founding acknowledged the Creator as the source of 'life, liberty, and pursuit of happiness'.

To me it is NOT complicated but complicated by minds who are bent in removing that acknowledgment from our nation's standard. They may succeed in pulling it down around their ankles but they will never tear it out of the minds and spines of all of US.

103 posted on 01/20/2011 12:04:38 PM PST by Just mythoughts
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