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PALIN leads Ohio and Wisconsin Rep. Primaries
PPP | PPP

Posted on 12/16/2010 4:07:00 PM PST by Anamnesis

Ohio: Palin 21% Huckabee 19% Gingrich 18% Romney 15% Paul 6% Daniels 5% Pawlenty 3% Thune 2%

Wisconsin: Palin 21% Huckabee 18% Romney 17% Gingrich 13% Pawlenty 10% Paul 4% Thune 3% Daniels 2%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_OH_1216.pdf

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WI_1216.pdf


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KEYWORDS: 2012primaries; elections; freepressforpalin; obama; palin; president; sarahpalin
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To: ansel12; moder_ator
I didn't recognize that quote from Romney, and apparently mis-attributed it. I will be happy to post links, if you do the same. You didn't post a link the first time your quoted me out of context on this thread, so I responded in kind.
81 posted on 12/17/2010 2:03:52 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ansel12; moder_ator
you are fine with Romney, I am not, you prefer him to Governor Palin, and you actually desire Giuliani to run for President again.

FTR, you just quoted me out of context yet again.

82 posted on 12/17/2010 2:06:37 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM; moder_ator

If you are going to use a previous post, you have to have the link available so that we can respond, you have me supporting Huckabee and Romney which are both lies (and an odd combination), and these personal attacks that are unrelated to the threads or politics are a disgusting troll tactic, that could mean bringing up all kinds of personal chat type postings on every thread.

Do we really want general chat discussions about divorce, girlfriends, ex-wives, troubled children, past drug use, alcoholism, business failures, bad school grades, etc to get used in personal attacks to keep someone from bringing up your candidate support for Rudy Giuliani as you troll Palin threads?

If that meets with approval on FR, then it will pretty much destroy the forum as every losing political argument is met with an accusation or dragging in of the most bizarre, unrelated aspects of the personal life, or history, it should be interesting since some posters have been here a dozen years, and many must have revealed many juicy bits of information that can be used as a distraction when they are on New/Activism threads, discussing politics.

I notice that you will not address your support for Rudy Giuliani either, you simply ignore it, and start flailing your arms, and throwing out anything that you can, no matter how untrue, or unrelated, it is most definitely relevant to this thread topic, and why you troll on the threads about our leading conservative candidate, Governor Palin.


83 posted on 12/17/2010 2:12:31 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: ansel12
Since you asked, here's a quote with a link. You complained about personal attacks then too.

To: CaptainK

“Supplying booze and drugs doesn’t constitute a freebie. Being in a state of inebriation could explain why the toll wasn’t collected.”

Drugs never entered the picture, but these personal attacks are getting over the line.
155 posted on Friday, March 14, 2008 5:19:22 PM by ansel12

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1985680/posts?page=155#155

84 posted on 12/17/2010 2:14:36 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM
I didn't recognize that quote from Romney, and apparently mis-attributed it. I will be happy to post links, if you do the same. You didn't post a link the first time your quoted me out of context on this thread, so I responded in kind.

Then post all the original links of every post of mine that you have quoted here, as I have asked.

I would never post one of your posts without having the link ready if you request it, which links to you want?

FTR, you just quoted me out of context yet again.

This one, that I described accuratly (described, not "quote") like this, "you are fine with Romney, I am not, you prefer him to Governor Palin, and you actually desire Giuliani to run for President again." ?

To: Checkers
I’m not a huge fan of Romeny’s but will take him over the others at this point. IMO, Palin needs to go to the Senate. Unless someone else comes along, I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.
10 posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:49:49 PM by FTJM

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2263296/posts?page=10#10

85 posted on 12/17/2010 2:22:27 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: ansel12; moder_ator
If you are going to use a previous post, you have to have the link available so that we can respond, you have me supporting Huckabee and Romney which are both lies (and an odd combination), and these personal attacks that are unrelated to the threads or politics are a disgusting troll tactic, that could mean bringing up all kinds of personal chat type postings on every thread.

Do we really want general chat discussions about divorce, girlfriends, ex-wives, troubled children, past drug use, alcoholism, business failures, bad school grades, etc to get used in personal attacks to keep someone from bringing up your candidate support for Rudy Giuliani as you troll Palin threads?

If that meets with approval on FR, then it will pretty much destroy the forum as every losing political argument is met with an accusation or dragging in of the most bizarre, unrelated aspects of the personal life, or history, it should be interesting since some posters have been here a dozen years, and many must have revealed many juicy bits of information that can be used as a distraction when they are on New/Activism threads, discussing politics.

I notice that you will not address your support for Rudy Giuliani either, you simply ignore it, and start flailing your arms, and throwing out anything that you can, no matter how untrue, or unrelated, it is most definitely relevant to this thread topic, and why you troll on the threads about our leading conservative candidate, Governor Palin.

As I said in my previous post, I am happy to include links and ask you to do the same. This isn't first time you've pulled out my previous posts, I explained the context of them the first few times you spammed them.

Here's a post with a link where you tell someone to support Huckabee:

To: elizabetty

“Huckabee can’t win - he has gotten most of the votes he is going to get.”

I think that you are wrong to throw your support to McCain, you should support his challenger.

26 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45:38 PM by ansel12 (The conservative boat sailed long ago, it is every man for himself now.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966589/posts?page=26#26

I've satisfied your request for posts with links now. However, it's hypocritical for you to complain to a moderator when this isn't the first time you quoted me out of context, after I explained my comments. To keep posting them and demanding an explanation when you've already heard it is disingenuous at best.

IIRC, I've also posted your comments about prostitution before to you, with no similar complaint. You made those comments about prostitutes on a political thread in the context of politics and defended them when challenged. Do they meet with the approval of FR? I find it surprising that you want to pick and choose what is off limits from posting histories now, after digging through mine.

I am more than happy to discuss politics and positions on their merits. Or we can just ignore each other in the future.

86 posted on 12/17/2010 2:34:36 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

It seems that part of being an anti-Palin troll means doing anything to avoid the relevant political discussion, even on a thread titled. “PALIN leads Ohio and Wisconsin Rep. Primaries”.


87 posted on 12/17/2010 2:38:15 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: FTJM

I want the links to post 55, by the way that post to elizabetty was probably a dig at what was one of the biggest Romneybots on FR, who we anti-Romney posters were dealing with all the time, on many threads a day, Huckabee was the great Satan to the Pro-Romney crowd for mentioning Mormonism.

You remember what it was like with you Giuliani and Romney people don’t you?


88 posted on 12/17/2010 2:51:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: ansel12
Then post all the original links of every post of mine that you have quoted here, as I have asked.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965637/posts?page=48#48

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1967890/posts?page=42#42

You're description isn't accurate and this isn't the first time you've described it. It's amazing (and pathetic) that you're playing some sort of victim when you troll the way you do.

89 posted on 12/17/2010 3:01:23 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ansel12
That makes absolutely no sense. You either don't read threads or don't understand them.

I posted a relevant link from PPP. A troll showed up and made an incredibly dumb and ironic post. You jumped in to troll with him. I responded in kind. Now you're playing the victim.

90 posted on 12/17/2010 3:07:30 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

Those links did not work, do you have the links to the original threads where I made those posts in post 55?

And if my description of that post is not accurate which part is inaccurate?

Do you prefer Mitt Romney to Governor Palin?

Do you want Rudy Giuliani to run for President again? “I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.”


91 posted on 12/17/2010 3:10:33 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: ansel12
There you go again, I wasn't a "Romney or Giuliani" person. I've made a few comments about either one of them in 3,593 posts, both within a context, which you are aware of.

You, however, supported Huckabee here and have bragged about sleeping with prostitutes on a conservative website. Boggles the mind.

92 posted on 12/17/2010 3:13:29 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

I have never supported Huckabee, and you wanted Giuliani to to run for a second time, did you not?

Also, you prefer Mitt Romney to Governor Palin, don’t you?

Are you denying that you wanted Giuliani to run in 2012, and that you prefer Romney to Palin?


93 posted on 12/17/2010 3:21:03 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: FTJM
You defended Romney against the "Mitt-bashers" and McCain.

If I defended Romney or his policies, you would have shown evidence by now. All you have is me criticizing McCain for his hypocritical attacks against Romney. Speaking of hypocrisy, McCain also criticized Obama for opposing the extention of the Bush tax cuts, when McCain himself opposed the tax cuts. <--See that, going by your logic, I am an avid Obama supporter. I'm still waiting on your explanation of why you support Romney over Palin.

Do you still call him Mitt?

I suppose I could. I don't see what difference it makes.

94 posted on 12/17/2010 3:24:29 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: ansel12
Those links did not work, do you have the links to the original threads where I made those posts in post 55?

And if my description of that post is not accurate which part is inaccurate?

Do you prefer Mitt Romney to Governor Palin?

Do you want Rudy Giuliani to run for President again? “I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.” I already posted the link and of course it works. HAVE YOU EVER HEARD OF CUT AND PASTE?

Feel free to re-read my post until you understand it. Pay particular attention to the context and the qualifiers.

You told people to support Huckabee and lauded his "amazingly successful fight against McCain" and the "fact" "that his governing experience is the highest among all candidates of both parties".

Please explain Huckabee's governing experience and why you think people should support him.

95 posted on 12/17/2010 3:25:58 PM PST by FTJM
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To: ansel12
You told people to support Huckabee and lauded his "amazingly successful fight against McCain" and the "fact" "that his governing experience is the highest among all candidates of both parties".

Are you denying you said that?

96 posted on 12/17/2010 3:27:51 PM PST by FTJM
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To: death2tyrants
You defended Romney against the Mitt-bashers, and defended him by criticizing McCain, during the primary. I'm waiting on your explanation why you did that.

No difference, it's just an interesting sign of affection that you have for him.

97 posted on 12/17/2010 3:31:10 PM PST by FTJM
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To: FTJM

You keep dodging simple questions. Are you denying that you wanted Giuliani to run in 2012, and that you prefer Romney to Palin?


98 posted on 12/17/2010 3:31:44 PM PST by death2tyrants
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To: FTJM

You have not posted the links to my original posts and the threads they were on, are you going to keep refusing that?

Also, you prefer Mitt Romney to Governor Palin, don’t you?

Are you denying that you wanted Giuliani to run in 2012, and that you prefer Romney to Palin?

Both of those statements are facts.


99 posted on 12/17/2010 3:37:56 PM PST by ansel12 (Lonnie, little by little the look of the country changes, because of the men we admire.)
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To: FTJM

Are you denying that you wanted Giuliani to run in 2012, and that you prefer Romney to Palin? You’re not going to answer these questions, are you?


100 posted on 12/17/2010 3:38:34 PM PST by death2tyrants
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