PALIN leads Ohio and Wisconsin Rep. Primaries

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[Anamnesis]

Ohio: Palin 21% Huckabee 19% Gingrich 18% Romney 15% Paul 6% Daniels 5% Pawlenty 3% Thune 2%

Wisconsin: Palin 21% Huckabee 18% Romney 17% Gingrich 13% Pawlenty 10% Paul 4% Thune 3% Daniels 2%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_OH_1216.pdf

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_WI_1216.pdf

[ansel12]

Do you have the links to the original threads where I made those posts in post 55?

And the post that I jumped in on, asked a relevant questions of an anti-palin troll. “Who do you favor in 2012”.

That is when I posted “FTJM is OK with Romney, and he wants Rudy Giuliani to run again.”, which is true.

[ansel12]

This just gets weirder, in the 2012 election cycle you are so against the conservative candidate Palin, that you have become a freerepublic troll.

For the 2012 election cycle, while fighting to stop the campaign of the conservative Palin, you prefer Mitt Romney to her, and you WANT RUDY GIULIANI TO RUN IN 2012!

Who do you think most of the people on this thread support?

Woo hoo!! FR is Palin Country!!

48 posted on Tuesday, October 26, 2010 12:12:51 PM by Jim Robinson

[FTJM]

Why would I need to deny what I wrote? My qualified comments were made in June 2009, and I have been clear here that I supported Fred Thompson in 2008 and like Demint or Pence at this point. The funny thing is I explained this before, the last time you trolled me. As an troll, you are pretty rote.

However, you don't need deny anything, you defended "Mitt" against the Mitt-bashers similar to how you defend Palin against the Palin-bashers. Wow.

[FTJM]

I've posts links on this thread.

I supported Fred Thompson and like Demint or Pence right now, and have stated so many times. I don't support Romney, and won't support him. My comments were clearly qualified. You know this. However, you supported Huckabee over everyone else, with no qualifications. Interestingly, you wrote this. Hmmm....

Electability seen as key to McCain's rising support Saturday, February 02, 2008 4:22:43 PM • 4 of 84
ansel12 to Berlin_Freeper
“they would rather have victory than total litmus test purity,”

I’m afraid the conservative purity boat sailed a long time ago, it’s everyman for himself now.
MAN THE LIFEBOATS!

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1963947/posts?page=4#4

As I told your troll buddy, you don't need to deny your support for Huckabee. In fact, you encouraged others to vote for him here, with no qualification.

I'm curious, given your affinity for working girls, shouldn't you support Ron Paul?

[FTJM]

It's funny that you are hiding your support for Huckabee by trolling for Palin now. Given your experience with Hare Krishnas and working girls, it's weird that you are even here.

[ansel12]

It's funny that you are hiding your support for Huckabee by trolling for Palin now.

You call this trolling, Troll? Jim Robinson is talking about trolls like you in this post.

To: ansel12; onyx; Fiddlstix
In the coming primary battle, the establishment, the “smart” money, the RINOs, the Sodom and Gomorrah political whores and the media are all aligned against the people with wicked giant Myth Romney. We the little people are backing Sarah the RINO Slayer from the North. It’s an uphill battle against huge odds, but we’ll be praying we’re on God’s side. We’ll need all the help we can get to smite the heathen giants.
54 posted on Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:59:14 PM by Jim Robinson

[FTJM]

Why on earth would I ascribe anything that YOU DO to the founder of this site?

YOU are a troll, and need to take responsibility for what YOU do, instead of trying to deflect to someone else.

Given your support for Huckabee, you summed up your philosophy: MAN THE LIFEBOATS!"

[ansel12]

The trolls are not the conservatives at freerepublic that support Governor Palin, it is the liberal guys like you that literally troll the Palin threads attacking her.

In your case, you have said that you prefer Romney to the conservative Sarah Palin, and you openly hope for Rudy Giuliani to run for President in 2012,“I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.”

Giuliani and Romney are both troll bait here at conservative freerepublic, and are absolute no gos to freerepublic. Here is just one quote of JR’s referring to your man Giuliani, “Number one, my worst fear that the pro-abortion, pro-gay, anti-gun social liberal Rudy Giuliani might be nominated, and thereby bring an abrupt and unholy end to the pro-life conservative movement within the GOP has been allayed. His evil culture of death platform has been soundly rejected by the Republican voters. Thank God! If nothing else is gained, that alone is a huge victory for us!”. Yet you want Giuliani to run in 2012 against Palin, and defeat her.

The JR quote is from here. “Seven Good Reasons to Support Mike Huckabee”.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1962819/posts

[FTJM]

You actually think you're a Conservative? You support Huckabee and encourage others to do so, while bragging about sleeping with prostitutes, and talk about going to the Hare Krishna temple and fighting the draft for two years because "it was slavery". It's amazing that you even post on FR!

As has been explained to you, my comments were qualified and referred to the crop of candidates left after the more conservative ones were gone (Thompson, Hunter, Tancredo). The context was that the choices were limited, and looking back, Romney or Giuliani were the better choices than the pitiful McCain, esp when the economic crisis hit. As I said in my post, I am not a fan of Romney and "unless someone better comes along", given the limited choices available at that time, I'd prefer either one of them over McCain, or his running mate who I thought shouldn't run at all, or run for Senate. I supported Fred Thompson until he dropped out, after that I'd take Giuliani over McCain, Romney and Huckabee in the hindsight of 5 months after Obama took office. Electing Obama is one of the biggest mistakes this country has ever made. Losing to him, is the biggest mistake the GOP has made in the last 100+ years. That's why I joined here, because I was so angry that Obama could even get elected.

However, I like Demint and/or Pence at this point, have said so many times, and posted many threads about them. I also supported DeVore here, for example, while you were more than vociferous in your support of Carly Fiorina, even after DeVore gave a chat here on this site. And criticism of Palin is not an attack, trolls like you only give her a bad name when you can't handle any ...at all. In a primary, she will get much worse. In this thread, I posted a link to a PPP poll that counters the OP's PPP poll to PROVE A POINT. It goes like this with Palin supporters: PPP polls that show her leading are great and prove that she can win, but PPP polls that show her losing, are evil left wing conspiracies promulgated by liberal polling outfits like PPP. You and your trolling buddy exemplified that perfectly with your responses.

I will not support Romney, I'm wasn't and am not a fan, as I said, and dislike him more now. Regarding Giuliani, on social issues he is weak, but it does take balls to turn around New York City, esp in light of Cloward-Piven, hence my comment that he had them in comparison to McCain who has none and can't get anything done without bending over. However, Giuliani is a non starter because there are better Conservative candidates who will run and I will support them, his window is closed. You see, the thing is, I will crawl over broken glass to vote against people like Obama and Clinton. Once the conservative candidate is gone, I won't stay home and not vote as some have suggested, I'll vote for whoever the GOP nominee is. If I'm going to have to vote for a less Conservative candidate again, I'd prefer one who can actually win this time.

[ansel12]

Lol, I never called the draft slavery, and you left out the part about me enlisting in the army immediately after beating the draft as was my desire all along, and I see that being a Rudy Giuliani supporter you can’t seem to post without a slew of irrelevant personal attacks.

You clearly and undeniably said that you wanted Rudy Giuliani to make another run in 2012 ““I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.”,and you prefer Mitt Romney over Palin.

I never supported Mike Huckabee, but I notice that you ignored that thread where the owner of freerepublic did, and gave the reasons to support Huckabee.

[FTJM]

you can’t seem to post without a slew of irrelevant personal attacks.

LOL. Pot meet kettle.

"I fought the draft for two years because I thought that it was slavery."

Do you deny saying that now? Sounds to me like you lost your fight with the draft and did the smart thing and enlisted.

You clearly and undeniably supported Huckabee and encouraged others to vote for him here on FR.

I noticed that you ignored the owner of freerepublic's support of Chuck Devore, consistently and vociferously, and still do.

Never supported Huckabee?

Thursday, February 07, 2008 2:45:38 PM • 26 of 33 ansel12 to elizabetty

“Huckabee can’t win - he has gotten most of the votes he is going to get.”

I think that you are wrong to throw your support to McCain, you should support his challenger.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1966589/posts?page=26#26

Saturday, February 09, 2008 10:06:12 PM • 50 of 94 ansel12 to goldfinch

“As for the Rockefeller Republicans not getting behind Goldwater...How is that so different than the Republican Conservatives not getting behind John McCain now?”

We conservatives are gaining a lot by Huckabee continuing this amazingly successful fight against McCain, yet the party is not being bloodied by it.

For all the terrible direction that this primary has taken, this stage of things is a little splash of lemonade from what we thought were pure lemons a few days (or weeks) ago.
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1967890/posts?page=50#50

[ansel12]

As has been explained to you, my comments were qualified and referred to the crop of candidates left after the more conservative ones were gone (Thompson, Hunter, Tancredo). The context was that the choices were limited, and looking back, Romney or Giuliani were the better choices than the pitiful McCain, esp when the economic crisis hit. As I said in my post, I am not a fan of Romney and "unless someone better comes along", given the limited choices available at that time, I'd prefer either one of them over McCain, or his running mate who I thought shouldn't run at all, or run for Senate.

You are a bald faced liar, and a liberal troll, all of these remarks are about the 2012 race, where you prefer Mitt Romney over Palin, and actually want Rudy Giuliani to run again for you in 2012!

To quote you about the 2012 field "Are you insane? I say prefer Romney or Giuliani over Palin at this point and that means I have some nefarious liberal agenda? Support Palin or you're a liberal? Wow."

To: Checkers
I’m not a huge fan of Romeny’s but will take him over the others at this point. IMO, Palin needs to go to the Senate. Unless someone else comes along, I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.
10 posted on Tuesday, June 02, 2009 3:49:49 PM by FTJM

To: dalereed
"""DU id democrat underground."""
Preferring Romney or Giulani in 2012 makes me a liberal? You're not very good at this trolling thing....
301 posted on Wednesday, June 03, 2009 12:01:30 AM by FTJM

All on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2263296/posts?q=1&;page=1

[freemike]

This can’t be right. I am sure that once the FCC fixes the internet we’ll get the facts right here. No one can be out polling Dear Leader. Surely this is why the FCC needs to step in and balance the news! We’ll soon find out that no one is out polling our glorious leader Obama. No one will dare challenge him and the FCC will prove this shortly after censoring, er, excuse me, regulating the internet.

[ansel12]

This only gets weirder, you are dredging up my military service in the Army during the Vietnam war as a volunteer, after fighting a principled victory against the draft, and all kinds of irrelevant things of a personal nature and claiming that I am doing that to you?

How many guys do you know that fought the draft, won, and then immediately enlisted in the Army, went combat arms, to jump school, and then tried to bribe their way to Vietnam?

I never supported Huckabee as a Presidential candidate, yet you think that if I had joined Jim Robinson in supporting Huckabee that it would be like you being a Rudy Giuliani supporter, and you preferring Mitt Romney over Palin?

Do you understand how crazy you sound?

[FTJM]

Do you understand English at all? In June 2009, I said "I’m not a huge fan of Romeny’s but will take him over the others at this point. IMO, Palin needs to go to the Senate. Unless someone else comes along, I’d like to Giuliani run. He has balls, will attack back and would actually get something done.

What part of June 2009, "over the others at this point" and "unless someone else comes along do you not understand"? I have been clear on who I support, Demint or Pence and have been consistent in doing so. I qualified my comments when I posted them and have explained to you many times now.

You, on the other hand, supported Huckabee and LIED about it and about calling the draft "slavery". You have zero intellectual honesty and are nothing more than a troll.

[FTJM]

I didn't dredge up anything. After you went through my posting history, I went through yours and merely pointed out the contradiction in your posts touting social conservatives when you bragged about sleeping with prostitutes, talked about going to the Hare Krishna temple and fought the draft because you thought it was slavery. You flat out denied that you ever said it, and I caught you in a clear lie. If you lie about your own comments, there's no telling what you are lying about. It's relevant because you claim that you are conservative.

I've posted your comments where you supported Huckabee and encouraged others to do so. I also know from experience that you adamantly opposed Chuck Devore, and did everything you could to convince others not to support him. It speaks for itself.

[ansel12]

So you admit then that until recently, you prefered Rudy Giuliani for 2012, and that now you have different choices for 2012.

Also, that you still, at this moment, prefer Mitt Romney in 2012, to Sarah Palin.

[FTJM]

Until recently? In what alternate universe is 1.5 years (5 months after the inauguration) recent? I really don't think English is your first language and your trolling is getting weaker and weaker.

One more time, of the leftover choices who ran in 2008, I said who I preferred. In 2008, I supported Fred Thompson, who believed to be the best Conservative candidate, until he dropped out. DeMint and Pence have since emerged as good Conservative candidates, and I would support either one of them, if they choose to run, that is, unless another Conservative candidate appears who could be better.

[ansel12]

I keep intending to get back to that Hare Krishna restaurant and temple that I use to describe one of the greatest Christian happenings in my life, and it is odd that such an anti-social conservative as yourself would be so shocked that a man that has lived the incredible life that I have, would know something about prostitutes, and pimps, and black bars, and violence, and just about everything that an excitement junkie can learn about in a lifetime of adventuring.

I also know how transvestites prefer straight razors and why, I know my way around knife fights, and bar fighting, bikers, and all kinds of stuff that would shock your dainty sensitivities.

I am also a Christian, and a social conservative, and I am proud of my military service and taking a stand against the draft, although you never posted the link to that quote, I am not shocked to have made such a simple mistake if I did, since the point I would have been making was probably about how my views changed when I was in the Army.

Forgetting a simple statement of that nature among tens of thousands is not like forgetting that you desired the most famous (notoriously) GOP candidate in freeper history to run for President in 2012, and that you prefer the most hated candidate here, to the most loved, conservative candidate here.

[FTJM]

Oh, is that the spin, the Hare Krishna temple helped your Christianity... If you think knowing the shaving habits of transvestites, or about pimps and prostitutes, is living an incredible life, you're sadly mistaken. It would be one thing if you disavowed those things, but you brag about them. When you bragged about sleeping with prostitutes and sleeping with multiple women here on FR, you got criticized for it. To which, you simply defended your comments and made more of them, then claimed that you were being unfairly attacked. That's hardly being a social conservative bud.

When I brought up your comment about fighting the draft because it was slavery, you lied and said you never made it in the first place, now you call it a "simple mistake". Talk about being a bald faced liar, nothing you say at this point can be considered truthful. Let me see if I have this straight: You said you fought the draft for two years because it was slavery then enlisted when the fight was over, but you were kept from combat even though you say you wanted to go and your "views" changed because of your time in the Army.

You go around calling people liberals while extolling your exploits with prostitutes, pimps, trannies, bikers, hare krishnas etc... and fighting the draft. It's mind blowing you would call anyone, anywhere, anytime a liberal, truly it is.