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To: SunkenCiv

I think your timeline doesn’t quite represent what really happened...it needs to go back to the recession of 1837 when the union labor decimated the northern manufacturers and priced them out of business (just like they’ve done today)...and the south started importing cheaper goods than buying from the north. Therefore the federal government established high tariffs on imported goods from the southern ports trying to FORCE the south to buy the north’s high priced goods...the south put up with that KRAP for OVER 20 YEARS before they got a gutful of the north’s and the federal government’s manipulation of the free market system. Not to mention that Texas was already pissed off because they’d been paying taxes to Washington DC for 20 years and not gotten one whit of help protecting the southern borders (JUST LIKE TODAY).


12 posted on 12/14/2010 6:55:11 PM PST by RowdyFFC (.)
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To: RowdyFFC
I think your timeline doesn’t quite represent what really happened...

Neither does your post. Union labor? In 1837?

14 posted on 12/14/2010 6:57:46 PM PST by Non-Sequitur
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To: RowdyFFC

The war was about slavery, and that’s it. All other rationalizations and revisionism means nothing.


16 posted on 12/14/2010 7:03:21 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: RowdyFFC
I think your timeline doesn’t quite represent what really happened...it needs to go back to the recession of 1837 when the union labor decimated the northern manufacturers and priced them out of business (just like they’ve done today)...and the south started importing cheaper goods than buying from the north. Therefore the federal government established high tariffs on imported goods from the southern ports trying to FORCE the south to buy the north’s high priced goods...the south put up with that KRAP for OVER 20 YEARS before they got a gutful of the north’s and the federal government’s manipulation of the free market system. Not to mention that Texas was already pissed off because they’d been paying taxes to Washington DC for 20 years and not gotten one whit of help protecting the southern borders (JUST LIKE TODAY).

Did you get all those myths from some Cracker Jack box, or did you just make them up off the top of your head? Overpriced union labor in 1837? High tariffs on goods "from" southern ports? Just --- WOW?

Do you know that the tariff rate in 1860 was the lowest in our history at that point in time? Did you know that both Massachusetts and South Carolina representatives in congress voted for those rates? Do you even understand what a tariff is?

The tariff excuse of secession is a myth my friend. Read some history. Read what they said at the time, not what some Libertarian nutbag at Lou Rockwell.com says.

50 posted on 12/16/2010 12:03:48 PM PST by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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