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To: esoxmagnum
Microsoft is in your lovely Mac.

And Mac is in your Microsoft. Apple and Microsoft have a business relationship. They compete where necessary for individual profit, and cooperate where necessary for mutual profit. That's called being a company, not driven by hatred for a company. Microsoft made a LOT of money selling Word on the Mac.

And maybe I’m slow on the uptake, but Microsoft is not a computer maker.

I'll bet you're running Windows.

The Shuffle was sold as PC compatible. Problem was, you were forced to enroll in all of Apples spy crap, forced to register all of your current content, and were manged into the iTunes store.

One, the Shuffle was not one of the first iPods. Two, you did not have to register your current content. Three, contrary to your claim it did work with your PC. Four, you do not have to buy content from the Apple Store. I have Amazon MP3 content in my iTunes right now.

But, true, iTunes is not the greatest of Apple's apps. It need a complete redesign as it's grown far beyond its original music manager functionality.

Yup, but Microsoft is not listed as the 2nd most liberal company in the United States

They're probably separating out Gates' giving billions to the likes of Planned Parenthood through his foundation. In any case my point stands, most tech companies are lefty. It is unfair to say you won't use one because it's lefty. Did you know HP was one of the leaders in gay "rights" in business?

94 posted on 12/21/2010 6:40:39 AM PST by antiRepublicrat
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To: antiRepublicrat

I am not supporting or giving kudos to microsoft or gates.

But, if I am running windows (which I am), I would have to run windows on any mac I would buy. So, why buy a computer where all of the profits go to the left, when you can buy a skeleton, build it yourself, how you want, with the money not going to either company, then toss in your operating system, with only THAT portion going to either MS or Apple?

I’m not sure, but the chinese products in a home-made PC are probably not pushing for gay rights here in the US. I don’t imagine many backwoods companies out of Hong Kong dumping money into the repeal of DADT, but you know what, they probably are come to think of it.


96 posted on 12/21/2010 6:46:29 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: antiRepublicrat

“It is unfair to say you won’t use one because it’s lefty. Did you know HP was one of the leaders in gay “rights” in business?”

I’m not saying I won’t use one. There is a difference between quietly using one because of necessity, and constantly pimping and promoting one. Does that make any sense?

Of course we are forced to used stuff manufactured by lefties, but that doesn’t mean I dance around and pass out thousands of fliers in my neighborhood telling everyone how great they are.

Does that make any sense? Probably not...


97 posted on 12/21/2010 6:48:33 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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To: antiRepublicrat

“One, the Shuffle was not one of the first iPods.”

On this you are correct, I do not keep up on music devices. To our family, it was one of the first, because it was the first time one of my family members expressed interest in having such a device. But, since it was not one of the first, this makes it even worse. Wouldn’t Apple have gotten their head out of their collective arses by the time this came out? I guess not.

“Two, you did not have to register your current content. “

She sure did. Every time it was plugged into the PC, some apple application (I forget the name) would pop up, and it would start filling in the blanks for all the missing songs. If I remember, on the agreement as well, you agreed to share your information with Apple. My kids were downloading their content from torrents, from Limewire, and copying old CD’s mom and dad had. With all the stories of folks getting fined for illegal music, this was a big no no for us. Apple has and had no right to categorize our music. And we searched, and searched on how to turn this off, we could not. We were told if we bought the better music thing (whatever i thing that might have been) we could use whatever music management device we wanted.

“Three, contrary to your claim it did work with your PC. “

yes, it did work with a PC. but like crappola. Her zen was plug and play, no apple pop ups, no categorizing songs, using windows media player to organize however she wanted.

Further, we had 2 of them things, now that I recall, one my oldest daughter had as well. We could not figure out how to get both of them to work with their one shared computer. It wouldnt’ do it. It would update both song lists, and force the song list to the other one, or it would direct us to the iStore thing to buy the usage rights for one song that had been bought already. I think my oldest daughter just chucked hers after a week or so.

“Four, you do not have to buy content from the Apple Store.”

No, you don’t. But our kids were directed to do so. For an eight year old, getting pressured into buying music, is just wrong. Also, for us to use the thing, we HAD to have a registered apple store account. I do remember that. There was no way to even manage or remove or add songs without the registered account.

“I have Amazon MP3 content in my iTunes right now.”

My kids have tons of songs on their zens, or zooms or whatever they have now. My son says he has over 10,000 songs on his Android. What is your point?


101 posted on 12/21/2010 7:17:57 AM PST by esoxmagnum
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