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I was attacked. I was told I was a moron and uninformed.

I did not call you a moron. Name-calling bores me. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you are misinformed, because the alternative is that you're lying.

You are spinning off in a hundred different directions. My only argument with you has been your criticisms of the Mac that are factually inaccurate. You're still at that, I see.

The first music storage devices? My daughter had one of the originals, it would not work with our PC’s, we could NOT transfer our existing music to it, unless we had the rights to it. Which means all those CD’s we bought in the 80’s were junk.

The first-generation iPod was Mac-only. The second generation was Windows or Mac compatible, but had only a Firewire interface. If you did not have a Mac, or you did not have a Firewire port, then buying an iPod was an astonishing lapse in research.

Assuming you had a Mac to connect it to, your "unless we had the rights to it" is simply a crock. Every iPod ever made will play standard MP3 files. Every version of iTunes ever released has been able to rip CDs. The iTunes store did not even exist until the 3rd-generation iPod, in April 2003.

Even their Macintosh and desktops couldn’t communicate with each other at one time. Remember that?

No idea what you're talking about. The very first Mac had LocalTalk networking out of the box.

As far as graphics and processing. I remember all the Apple heads talking about how the Intel chipsets sucked, and Apple had a far superior product. Test after test showed different results. So what did Apple do? They went with Intel.

PowerPC chips were, when adopted and for some years thereafter, faster than Intel's Pentium. Motorola and IBM failed to keep up with Intel, so Apple switched. That's been the pattern for Apple -- they develop their own technology when needed, and switch to off-the-shelf solutions when they catch up.

Remember how all of Microsoft products sucked to the Apple-bots? Guess what Apple did, they made a deal with Gates to supply the office portion to Apple, because it was far superior.

Microsoft was working with Apple before the Mac launched. Word for Mac was released in 1985, and was a popular title on Mac when it trailed far behind WordPerfect on DOS.

Remember how only apple peripherals would work with Apple?

I remember that claim. It wasn't true.

The Apple bots LOVED that, but no one else did. Now, USB works some of the time. But you are still taking a chance on some of the digital cameras and music PDA’s and phones working with Apple. But they all work for PC.

Any peripheral requires that the manufacturer write drivers or use standard ones. You'd have to dig pretty far into the bargain bucket to find a camera, MP3 player or phone that won't work with a Mac.

How about that 1 button mouse that Apple insisted for years was the BEST! People hated it. Now you can get a normal mouse.

For suitably broad versions of "now." I had a three-button mouse for Mac in 1989.

Now, I see that over the last year, Apple has made some changes. They are progressing towards being able to do that. I see you can mix and match parts.

For values of "over the last year" that reach back to 1997, when Apple started offering build-to-order G3 Macs. Just because you have recently discovered something does not make it new.

“The first-generation iPod was Mac-only. The second generation was Windows or Mac compatible, but had only a Firewire interface. If you did not have a Mac, or you did not have a Firewire port, then buying an iPod was an astonishing lapse in research. “

It was an iPod Shuffle. I had to ask my wife. JUNK. Pure junk, just like most Apple products. Made for the technically challenged, marketed towards the technically challenged. We thought it would be good for an 8 year old because of that. We were wrong. We could not use our CD’s, because we were directed instantly to the Apple store to buy the rights of those songs. Not only that, but the damn thing kept installing some apple media player on our PC, which would cause our PC all sorts of problems.

Were we mis-informed? Maybe, but after contacting Apple, we were told by THEM that we had to buy the usage rights. We were also told we HAD to have the apple media player, and had to register with the itunes store for it to work. We did not want apple fishing around and gathering information on song library. Screw them. Goodbye Apple product, Hello Zen for the 8 year old.

If I was misinformed, it was from your Gay Loving, Liberal Loving Apple company. Take it up with them, and stop lying on the forums.

“No idea what you’re talking about. The very first Mac had LocalTalk networking out of the box. “

The Apple II series could not work with the original Macintosh, so the III series was made to allow schools to transition. This hurt Apple badly, as they had the schools all locked up. What universities found, was that HS kids going from the II series to the College level macintosh, knew nothing, and had to start from scratch. You couldn’t take that IIc pizza box you bought and use it with your macintosh. You had to upgrade to the IIe card.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_IIe_Card

Once again, brilliant move Apple. Brilliant. So glad they are the top dog.... NOT.

“PowerPC chips were, when adopted and for some years thereafter, faster than Intel’s Pentium. Motorola and IBM failed to keep up with Intel, so Apple switched. That’s been the pattern for Apple — they develop their own technology when needed, and switch to off-the-shelf solutions when they catch up. “

Every time Apple made statements on speed, it was shot down. HARD. Embarrassingly hard. So hard in fact, it became a joke on the internet. They were even claiming that their single core processors were faster than the dual cores and overclocked processors that were dominating the market. It was laughable. I think it became so laughable, that Apple even recognized they were becoming the joke of the neighborhood. While they were talking speed, off-brand PC makers were capturing the gaming market, and running circles around them.

Yes, Apple at one time, under the right conditions (no TSR programs) could out run a PC, but once overclocking and multi-core technology became the mainstream and every 13 year old was overclocking their rig, Apple was left looking like grandpa in his Studebaker, while the cool kids were doing laps around him in their Mustangs.

Develop their own technology? What technology is that? They don’t even use their own OS anymore do thy? They have jumped to outside sources for their OS, their sound, their video, their storage, and just about everything else. Heck, even Microsoft is doing their dirty work. So tell me again, why do I want an Apple?

The only reason I ever hear anyone suggest to buy an Apple is “it works”. Guess what, PC’s work too. They work great, and Apples freeze up too, and have issues. But I’m not shelling out an extra grand for there to be some sort safety net that allows me to plug in a mouse without frying my system. That stuff is for Granny, and the technically challenged.

“Remember how only apple peripherals would work with Apple?

I remember that claim. It wasn’t true. “

Wow, how was I going to jam my 86 bit cards into them apples? How as I going to jam my soundblaster card into the apple? With Steve Jobs magic? How as I going to plug my 3 button trackball into the apple? Oh, they can do those things now, but not then. Stop Lying. Your a liar. You make shit up. YOU ARE FUD, and you support and pimp the 2nd most liberal company in the United States, who loves Gays, and hates Pro-Lifers. You don’t just do it casually, YOU DO IT EVERY DAY, it is all you post.

“Any peripheral requires that the manufacturer write drivers or use standard ones. You’d have to dig pretty far into the bargain bucket to find a camera, MP3 player or phone that won’t work with a Mac. “

Maybe today, I don’t know, I know last year, our Kodak camera wouldn’t work, I know our Zen wouldn’t work. Oh yeah, that’s Apples philosophy, make shit that doesn’t work, then remake it when people complain enough, then say “your wrong... see it does work????” How about making it work the first time? Not on the 4th or 5th generation product.

“For values of “over the last year” that reach back to 1997, when Apple started offering build-to-order G3 Macs. Just because you have recently discovered something does not make it new.”

I’m not talking about built to order, I’m talking about the ability to build your own, mix and match parts, scavenge what you need, and do a project that works, at a cheap price. Apple has never been able to do that.

Oh, and instead of cherry picking what you think you might win a battle on, lets address the rest of the post. I want to see you show me how much you love their Gay agenda, and how much you love their anti-life agenda. I’m just itchin to report you for pimpin this liberal company day after day buster. I’m just itchin...

And that goes for your ring of rodeo clowns that come running to your rescue every time you ping them.

lets see what the mods and Jim Rob have to think about your constant push for the 2nd most liberal company in America, because quite frankly, conservatives like myself get sick of seeing your Gay lovefest of Apple, Jobs and AlGore being tossed around all over day after day, like pamphlets at a Pride rally.