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‘There's Never Any Closure': 20 Years After Conviction, Victim's Family Waits for Killer's Execution
News Herald ^ | December 05, 2010 | CHRIS OLWELL

Posted on 12/05/2010 9:43:02 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 12/05/2010 9:43:05 PM PST by nickcarraway
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I agree with Bart, he should be able to kill the murdering a**hat in any way he thinks is appropriate. The more painful, the better.


2 posted on 12/05/2010 10:06:18 PM PST by calex59
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To: nickcarraway

O M G, how horrific.

That poor child, that poor family. I can’t imagine the pain they’ve had all these years.

I hope one day they find peace.

I don’t know what else to say. It’s so sad.


3 posted on 12/05/2010 10:11:00 PM PST by Jacktown
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To: nickcarraway
With each appeal the family of the victim has the wound reopened over and over and over again. Always reliving it. Outsiders will remember the victim from the time they died and the crime. They don't know the life and story that existed before.

I once wrote a little to the Arizona Republic (that is still in the archives,of course) that stated while the convicted gets appeal upon appeal, what second chance does the person murdered get?

I speak from experience, since my dad's name is known by many first year law students. Because of what a wonderful person he was? No. Because his murderer took his case to the USSC. Who wants that legacy?

4 posted on 12/05/2010 10:13:59 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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I know exactly how you feel. The girl that was murdered in the movie Dead Man Walking was my neighbor and my friend yet her name is never remembered. No one knows what a funny sweet girl she was and her boyfriend too.

Her killers got their names in lights. Got a movie and everything.

Makes me sick.

All these years and it still makes me angry.


5 posted on 12/05/2010 10:30:38 PM PST by Jacktown
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To: nickcarraway

The death penalty does not work. Its not justice when a killer gets to use every legal tool at his disposal to thwart it. The families of murder victims deserve closure.


6 posted on 12/05/2010 11:02:58 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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If there is no death penalty, will they start ending life sentences. In some countries, the maximum sentence for any crime is ten years. That will happen here soon.


7 posted on 12/05/2010 11:17:53 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
The perp:


8 posted on 12/06/2010 12:27:27 AM PST by spetznaz (Nuclear-tipped Ballistic Missiles: The Ultimate Phallic Symbol)
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To: goldstategop
The constantly-thwarted by legal maneuvering death penalty does not work. There, I fixed it.

Meanwhile, the universe is dying of heat death faster than some 'death'-row inmates.
9 posted on 12/06/2010 12:35:00 AM PST by beezdotcom
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To: Jacktown

These are the stories that show evil working it’s way through this world. Despicable how these demons are given star status.


10 posted on 12/06/2010 12:41:01 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: nickcarraway

in 1979 my cousin’s 8 year old daughter was abducted, raped and murdered by a 25 year old mechanic.
He was caught within a week, confessed his crime and announced that he enjoyed it so much that he would do it again if ever given the chance.
This creep was tried, convicted and sentenced to death in Tennessee. It took 25 years of appeals, postponements and stays of execution before he was finally put down. For my cousin, Charlotte, it was as if the state was punishing her for the entire 25 years.


11 posted on 12/06/2010 5:16:22 AM PST by BuffaloJack (The Recession is officially over. We are now into Obama's Depression.)
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I only read the head line that was more than enough. Doesn't matter if they carry out the DP, or if the prep goes to prison for a pittance of their plea bargained sentences.

Victim's families are given a life sentence of pain. THE PAIN FOR THE VICTIM'S FAMILY NEVER GOES AWAY. My Jeremy has been gone 21 years now and the pain is always in my heart.

12 posted on 12/06/2010 7:14:22 AM PST by GailA (NO JESUS, NO CHRISTmas!)
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Long ago, I wanted to write a book about high profile (national or local) murder cases. The cases would get a couple of paragraphs overview and the stories would be about who the victims really wore. I just never knew how to go about writing such a thing.


13 posted on 12/06/2010 7:24:13 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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It’s so sad. No one knows about the victims, only how they were murdered. It’s so unfair, it breaks my heart.

If you do one day write that book, I will buy it. Count on that.


14 posted on 12/06/2010 10:02:18 AM PST by Jacktown
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Yes it is. To me, it makes the hurt so much deeper.

We are a strange society. One I sometimes don’t understand.


15 posted on 12/06/2010 10:03:57 AM PST by Jacktown
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The only problem is I wouldn’t know where to start on the interview process. How to contact other families without seeming like one of the vulture media.


16 posted on 12/06/2010 2:59:30 PM PST by HungarianGypsy
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You call them up and ask. You know how to talk to them. You’re one of them.

You’d be surprised how many people want their stories told.

I think it’s a wonderful idea. Handled with love, most families would not have a problem with what you want to write.

You’ll never know until you try. Give it some thought.


17 posted on 12/06/2010 9:14:38 PM PST by Jacktown
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I am considering it. I would definitely like to write something on your friend, as well, if I did this and could make a contact. It was really the where to start aspect. Do I query a publisher? Do I pick certain cases, etc.? A lot of questions, but maybe it would help my own grief a bit. This year has been harder than most. I keep telling myself it’s been 16 years. It shouldn’t feel worse than when it happened.


18 posted on 12/07/2010 9:32:08 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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The first thing I’d like an author to do is disabuse folks of this concept of “closure.” There’s no such thing, IMHO.


19 posted on 12/07/2010 9:41:33 AM PST by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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That is so true. When I wrote a letter to that person in 2000, I said I could deal with my dad dying in a car accident or of a heart attack, but the fact was that he had been STOLEN from me.

As I read your statement, I also thought how that part of my life has been stolen and stomped on, for good measure.

20 posted on 12/07/2010 9:59:59 AM PST by HungarianGypsy
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