Advice on firearm purchase needed

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[driftdiver]

You made a statement based on my posts, plural. Pick the caliber you like best.

My neighbors are close and my family is closer. The .45 acp with hollowpoints has a 88% one shot stop rating from the Texas Dept of Safety. They tested quite a few calibers when they went through a selection process.

They chose the .357 sig based on its increased penetration. This was important for cops as they tend to shoot through car doors and windows and need the extra power.

Its simple common sense, the .357 and .44 both have higher muzzle velocity and energy than the .45. Their wound channels are also larger and much deeper. In one test I saw the .44 penetrated over 20” of ballistics gel. The .45 had between 9 and 12 inches.

Again, common sense tells ya that if the target doesn’t stop the bullet it will keep going. I choose not to endanger my neighbors or family members.

Just because you asked me for an example doesn’t mean I’m going to run out and find one for you. I’m not your lacky to order around.

[Principle Over Politics]

I did not respond to your post(s). I responded to your post (singular) number 2. Go back and look. Since you can't read very well, perhaps you shouldn't even have a gun around the house. If you mistake one of your family for an intruder because you can't see, the caliber you use probably will not make much difference.

I am not your lackey either. You were the one that first suggested I do a Google search. I simply asked you to give me an example of the collateral damage you are so concerned about, and you could not. It's not because you don't want to be my lackey that you don't provide even one example, it's because you have none.

[driftdiver]

Perhaps you can just stop posting to me.

[bobby.223]

A very, VERY fair and measured response JR. I do not know if you have followed the consistent filth out of this youngn’s mouth the last 4 months, and by filth I do not mean just his toady pro nra speak, that is not filth..heck we all have our own opinions on things but I mean real improper language directed at FR posters. Look back over his posts, if you have not already, some of his comments directed to FReepers who do not follow his nra beliefs are beyond the pale, to use an old guy saying. My Goodness, his verbiage and speak directed to FReepers is what the DUmmies over at the DUmp use towards us! Heck I think most will agree we all type in comments towards fellow FReepers on occasion, that are inappropriate, myself included!!!, but one after the darn other week after week, month after month running now...not to mention FR mail, is just getting to be a bit much.

[pepsi_junkie]

Did you by chance read the other 10,000,000,000,000 threads on “I want to buy a gun”?

Thanks for your thoughtful and helpful reply.

[mad_as_he$$]

Here is the bottom line. Unless you and your wife are absolutely certain you can kill someone do not buy a gun for self defense. As I have posted in the other 10,000,000,000,000 threads. I have killed with a gun and unless you have you need to do some serious soul searching about life after that.

Will Munny: It's a hell of a thing, killing a man. Take away all he's got and all he's ever gonna have.

[bobby.223]

Go to the banglist....scroll down to 11/23’s thread, “advice on firearm needed”............And watch the little man midget shooter2.5 get SMACKED DOWN HARD by the MAN, JR his ownself during the lasts posts!!!!!!! You will love it ‘Toad!!! Bobby.

[bobby.223]

Well said. He was warned to stop his personal crap against other FReepers but decided to continue to attack....accuse JR of supporting schumer??? (my GOD!! how GD dumb can one be huh)? Blindly? good point. He supported the muslim terrorist front group...C.A.I.R’s main man and agenda setter/heavy hitter Grover Norquist...for years, as an as an nra board member!!!!!!!!!!!! hard to believe huh? The nra in bed with a HUGE muslim C.A.I.R biggie!!!???? (don’t believe it?! Google nra/grover norquist, or google debbie schussel’s Col. from 2008 on this), Not my grandpap’s nra...not even close. To bad these kids today fall for the nra’s BS...continue to send ‘em money to pay their exec’s million dollar salaries...to pay for the nra’s Taj Mahal new building and to fund their monthly beg-o-grams. My goodness, there was a time I would go to dukes over anyone bad mouthing the nra. never again. they are muslim lovers. Don’t believe it? do your homework!

[driftdiver]

“I have killed with a gun and unless you have you need to do some serious soul searching about life after that.”

I love reading these threads, which there were 20,000,000,000,000 threads on them. Taking a life is a serious matter.

Protecting loved ones is also a serious matter.

[mad_as_he$$]

My main point is that some people think that buying a gun and having it around prepares them for killing someone. Nothing could be further from the truth. Many people are simply not equipped to take a life when it comes right down to it. As an old Gunny told me once. “It is real embarrassing to get shot with your own gun.”

[driftdiver]

I agree there is a lot more to owning a firearm than just buying it.

[InternetTuffGuy]

It depends on what you and your wife want, and are willing, to kill.

[Titan Magroyne]

Here ya go FRiend, I wanted you to see the jpg in this post. Nasty stuff!