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To: decimon

While they don’t know the answer to that question, they do know that there are long term effects. I knew several men who had been “bitten” by military grade nerve agents, and always had time to listen to anything they had to say on the subject.

The first one had been working “tech escort” on a convoy transporting persistent nerve agent around the US, an infrequent event, to say the least. He unknowingly developed a hole in his suit. Quite abruptly, he showed textbook symptoms, of which there are about a dozen.

At that point, I was all ears, hoping he would wax eloquent.

“I felt really bad. Then they put 10 atropine injectors in my legs. Then I passed out and went into a coma for two weeks. Then I woke up and felt really bad. That’s all.” Just my luck, he was a poet.

The other guy was more interesting. He worked in a lab for a long time with persistent nerve agent, with a low vapor hazard. They had vent fans, wore gloves, goggles, and just surgical masks. If someone’s eyes started to water, they would go outside and smoke a cigarette.

Then they worked with non-persistent agent, with a high vapor hazard. They wore protective masks. Even so, after working with it for a while, his eyes started to water, so he went outside for a smoke.

He took one drag, and then he said “It felt like my lungs contracted to the size of two walnut meats.” He was out cold before he even started to fall down. He concluded by saying that he never smoked another cigarette again, nor wanted to in any way.


7 posted on 11/23/2010 4:03:13 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Don’t think I’ve encountered any nerve agents. But given the opportunity while in the Army, I messed with a spring-loaded atropine cartridge and injected my finger. No noticeable effect. I also spilled some CN powder on a finger. It burns.


10 posted on 11/23/2010 4:18:27 PM PST by decimon
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Some ld50s. (TEPP used to be used on hops-prost!)



 

Insecticide

Oral LD50 in Rats (mg/Kg)

Ogranophosphates

     TEPP

  1.1

     Parathion

13

     Malathion

1375

     Dichlorvos

80

     Diazinon

108

     Trichlorfon

630

     Ronnel

1250

Carbamates

     Carbaryl

850

     Bagon

83

     Mobam

150

     Aldicarb

0.8

     Zectram

37

Organochlorines

     DDT

113

     Methoxychlor

6000

     Aldrin

39

     Dieldrin

46

     Lindane

88

Botanicals

     Nicotine

10-60

     Rotenone

100-300

     Pyrethroids

100-300

http://faculty.swosu.edu/scott.long/txcl/pesticid.htm




16 posted on 11/24/2010 6:55:34 AM PST by DoorGunner ("Rom 11: until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in; 26 and so, all Israel will be saved")
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