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To: Red Steel

“Yes, that is true, BUT “

There is no “BUT” ... you are confusing a basic and simple term of art with the legal satisfaction and requirements for that term.

“natural-born citizen” means ‘citizen at time of birth’.

Any arugments over who is a natural-born citizen are arguments over who gets to be a citizen at time of birth.
“A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government” is either a citizen or subject at time of birth.


642 posted on 11/15/2010 8:41:43 AM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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To: WOSG
There is no “BUT” ... you are confusing a basic and simple term of art with the legal satisfaction and requirements for that term.

There is a 'BUT' alright. That you did not understand or ignored the word "jurisdiction" in Black's Law Dictionary ...you likely did not understand the word. No 'term of art' nonsense.

I enlighten you faither to the meaning of 'jurisdiction.' Here again,

"..."Jurisdiction" is not only "territorial jurisdiction" but it encompasses allegiance owing jurisdiction where the foreign citizen who owes allegiance to a foreign sovereign. A foreign citizen can pass on their foreign sovereign to their child born on a foreign land, therefore, the child is NOT a natural born citizen. "


Black's Law Dictionary definition is no different than Bouvier's Law Dictionary as seen below.


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As we see, Bouvier's Law Dictionary informs us to the meaning of the word "jurisdiction" in their definition while Black's Law Dictionary does not.



661 posted on 11/15/2010 12:04:06 PM PST by Red Steel
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