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To: patlin
The fact that you have probably spent DAYS reading the birther websites says more about you than it does about me, and not anything good. You really do remind me of the 9/11 truthers. They insist that the towers didn't fall correctly and that it must have been a controlled demolition. No way a 767 could have hit with enough force to knock the towers over. Likewise, the Pentagon was hit by a missile and not a plane, and our government covered it up. Don't argue with them on it, either. They've read the research and done 10 times more studying than anyone else on the matter.

Similarly, you pride yourself on being very educated on the conspiracy theory. I do think you have the talking points largely memorized. You obviously have a great memory to be able to keep all of the irrelevant court cases straight and all of the secondary sources that have no relevance as well.

545 posted on 11/13/2010 5:30:29 PM PST by VADoc1980
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To: VADoc1980
US citizenship is no conspiracy, especially to those Justices in the Dred Scott case that gave birth to the Civil Rights Act which became the 14th Amendment upon its ratification:

Justice Peter Daniel arguing that black slaves were not persons & thus did not qualify for US citizenship according to the law adopted by the US determining who were the born citizens:

Thus Vattel, in the preliminary chapter to his Treatise on the Law of Nations, says: ...The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights.

cited from British law textbook: “America & the Law of Nations 1776-1939” Janis, Oxford University

Your problem is that you think the states all signed the same declaration at the same time, when in fact, each & every state signed & sent its own declaration of independence to the Brits prior to the federal one of July 4, 1776. The federal declaration made it known to all that the individual sovereign nation states had formed a union(confederacy), thus the law of nations was vital. The federal govt is not sovereign, never has been, it is merely a vessel of representatives from each of the sovereign states to promote commerce & protect life, liberty, the pursuit of happiness & conduct foreign relations for the federal Union with other nations. To think the founders wanted someone with immediate familial foreign relations conducting that business is just plain admitting to being ignorant of American history that has its roots in the laws of many nations. The Brits weren't the only inhabitants, but I guess your prejudice in favor of the Brits who the founders fought against clouds your judgment, thus reason of law is beyond your comprehension.

546 posted on 11/13/2010 5:58:08 PM PST by patlin (Ignorance is Bliss for those who choose to wear rose colored glasses)
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