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To: WOSG

In order to be President you have to be a Natural Born Citizen, not a Citizen.


150 posted on 11/12/2010 6:26:43 PM PST by Retired Intelligence Officer
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer
In order to be President you have to be a Natural Born Citizen, not a Citizen.

Again I refer to United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U.S. 649 (1898)

The constitution nowhere defines the meaning of these words [citizen and natural born citizen], either by way of inclusion or of exclusion, except in so far as this is done by the affirmative declaration that 'all persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.

The Court addressed the so called Common Law (Vattel as precedence.

It thus clearly appears that by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country, and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, and the jurisdiction of the English sovereign; and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject

164 posted on 11/12/2010 6:38:28 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

“In order to be President you have to be a Natural Born Citizen, not a Citizen.”

Also, the sky is blue. What’s your point?


182 posted on 11/12/2010 6:59:14 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: Retired Intelligence Officer

”In order to be President you have to be a Natural Born Citizen, not a Citizen.”

Correct. And you asked for what the difference between citizen and natural-born citizen is - here it is, clear and simple:

There are two types of US citizen - natural-born and naturalized. If you are a US citizen, you are either:
1) A citizen from birth, aka natural-born citizen
2) A naturalized citizen (via immigration process)

Everyone in category #1 is a natural-born citizen, which they acquired either because they were born in the USA (14th amendment) or because their parents were citizens (multiple US laws on that). All of them are eligible to be President.

This understanding comports with Article II meaning because its intent was to bar naturalized citizens from becoming President.

So Gov Swartzenegger cannot be President, Gov Jindhal can.


200 posted on 11/12/2010 7:15:53 PM PST by WOSG (OPERATION RESTORE AMERICAN FREEDOM - NOVEMBER, 2010 - DO YOUR PART!)
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