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To: The Comedian
My assertion all along has been that a missile would only remain in view for two to three minutes. Here are various large rocket launches:

trident: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=utTb7AOszac

out of view in two minutes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TPHQ2GFxMw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaCtyfr9veI

titan iv start at 1:00, out of view in 2:30 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sn2ULNGBww4&feature=related

titan start at :30 almost out of view in 2 min http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bvImsY9shE&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NXBnLMGfm4&feature=fvw

Unfortunately, all of the ICBM and SLBM video online is less than a minute in length.

Regardless, if the object in the video remained in view for ten minutes, there's just no way it could have been a missile.

So I tried to track down the eye witnesses. Rick Warren has time stamps spanning more than 4 minutes for his photos. So I figured if Gil had seen the object for that amount of time or more, then the case was closed.

But Gil is adamant that the object was only in view for 2 to 3 minutes. That threw a monkey wrench in proving my hypothesis, so in my hypothesis the missile theory is not ruled out regardless of the other hypotheses.

I'm not sure Gil witnessed the subsequent views captured by Rick Warren's photos and overlayed by contrailscience.com:

Gil says what he saw was 11 minutes prior to the views above, according to the time stamps attributed by contrailscience.com to those latter images.

And that's probably the bottom line: Gil might not have witnessed the tiny object in the top of the final images captured by Rick Warren. I don't know if his front mounted camera would have captured them that high:

I still have to specifically ask him about that.

550 posted on 12/05/2010 6:09:19 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
But Gil is adamant that the object was only in view for 2 to 3 minutes. That threw a monkey wrench in proving my hypothesis, so in my hypothesis the missile theory is not ruled out regardless of the other hypotheses.

Thanks for the additional information you uncovered. So when they stated they were on the object for 10 minutes, that probably meant they got clearance to cover the object from their home base for 10 minutes. They apparently contacted the base right away. By any chance did you get any actual time stamps for any of the videos (ie - exactly when they were taken). To date all we have is around 5:15 pm.

558 posted on 12/06/2010 9:25:55 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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