[The Comedian]

Brigadier General Cash offered an opinion backed up with zero facts and zero data.

If the Pope said he saw Jesus working the counter down at the 7/11, would you assume that Jesus needed the extra income, or might you assume that the Pope was wrong, and demand something other than his fevered rantings about the Messiah selling Lotto tickets?

And let's not forget that Brigadier General Cash (retired for almost 20 years now) writes for Joseph Farah, who, although a nice guy, doesn't have the best reputation for publishing non-fantastic truth (African Ark of the Covenant anyone?).

He makes a couple of absolutely false statements : That no flight was in the area at the time, and that the contrail was "clearly observed by NORAD, assessed by a four-star general in minutes, and passed to the president immediately". No such thing happened, because there was nothing out of the ordinary to track, report, or "cover up".

Opinion, unsubstantiated assertions, and zero data.

Unless you Missile Truthers can come up with at least one fact to argue, there isn't much of a conversation to be had.

Here, I'll make this very, very simple. Fill in two facts (not opinions) that either falsify the UPS902 contrail explanation, or support the missile contrail/alien starship/elves assertion:

1.

2.

Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

[Brian Kopp DPM]

The eyewitness cameraman stated to me that he saw a jet airliner far to the south of the contrail he was filiming, that he believes was actually flight UPS902.

He said that typical jet airliner contrail, in comparison to the one he videotaped, was like "comparing a tree to an ant." The contrail he was filming was nothing like the other jet airliner contrail he had in view at the time to the south.

Frankly, contrailscience.com has done a fine job presenting their case, and it is very credible.

But it too is simply an opinion. It is not fact. They have taken photos and created a hypothesis to fit known data. It is not 'data' itself but an opinion based on data.

Likewise, the camera man has offered an opinion based on his first hand eye witness acount.

There is no hard data in this case, no facts of the kind you are demanding. Neither side knows for certain what he was filming that evening.

The only "facts" are that something appears in Gil's video and Rich Warren's photos.

Beyond that, there lies only opinion, not fact or data.

[TigersEye]

And let's not forget that Brigadier General Cash (retired for almost 20 years now) writes for Joseph Farah, ...

100% false. Brigadier General Jim Cash has never written anything for Joseph Farah or WND.