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Florida Immigration Bill Allows Police to Skip Over Canadians, Europeans
Washington Independent ^ | 10/20/10 | Elise Foley

Posted on 10/20/2010 11:35:23 AM PDT by greatdefender

Via Change.org, some interesting information about a proposed Arizona-style immigration bill in Florida: The bill includes a provision allowing Canadians and Western Europeans to be “presumed to be legally in the United States,” even though other non-citizens must carry papers. Florida’s bill, which was drafted by Rep. William Snyder (R), has support from Rick Scott, the Republican candidate for governor. Although proponents of the legislation argue it would not lead to racial profiling, the provision on Canadians and Western Europeans — most of whom are white non-Latinos — brings up new concerns for Latino groups. (The Miami New Times, which originally pointed out the provision, has a full copy of the draft bill.) Latino and immigrant rights groups have fervently opposed the bill, which would mimic Arizona’s SB 1070 by requiring police to check legal status on anyone they “reasonable suspicions” of being in the country illegally if the police have already stopped them. The provision would allow them to assume legal status if the person had a Canadian passport or a “passport from any ‘visa waiver country’” — which are primarily located in Western Europe. “That language makes it clear that police are targeting only a specific minority,” Susana Barciela, policy director at the Florida Immigrant Advocacy Center, told the Miami New Times.

Snyder said the language was meant to avoid deterring tourism from Canada. “What we’re doing there is trying to be sensitive to Canadians,” he said in a radio interview. “We have an enormous amount of … Canadians wintering here in Florida. … That language is comfort language.”

The bill has caused some tension between Florida politicians, particularly the three Latino Republican members of Congress from Miami who oppose the anti-immigration legislation. Reps. Lincoln Diaz-Balart, Mario Diaz-Balart and Ileana Ros-Lehtinen tepidly endorsed Scott for governor earlier this month despite his support for the bill.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; Travel
KEYWORDS: arizona; canada; europe; florida; immigration
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To: Former Proud Canadian
Heck, I carry ID in Canada and I was born here.

Same here, born in USA, carry photo ID to step outside with a bag of trash.

Also, I am taking my Birth Certificate, photo ID and matching address current Voter Registration Card with me to vote.

There is usually some little commie poll watcher lurking around the voting machines in my Republican district. At the sign-in table I will have a bit of fun explaining in a not-overly-loud but clear voice how easy it was to bring my documentation with me to vote.

Absolutely no trouble at all!

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21 posted on 10/20/2010 12:05:00 PM PDT by TLI ( ITINERIS IMPENDEO VALHALLA)
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To: GeronL

The question was, “Can you name one other law that grants special privileges to a person who is in the country illegally...?”

Once a Cuban sets foot on US soil, they are not considered to be here illegally.

And yes, we have immigration quotas and all those who are within the quotas are here legally.

Now, point me to a law that specifies that illegal aliens from certain countries are granted special privileges which are not available to illegal aliens for other countries.


22 posted on 10/20/2010 12:05:43 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: trumandogz
I think we are confusing some terms here. This thread refers to visitors who are citizens of Canada and other "non-visa" countries. These "visitors" are allowed to stay in the US, legally, for up to six months at a time.

"Visitors" are not immigrants, legal or otherwise. They don't intend to stay or overstay their "non-visa visitor status". They don't get jobs. They don't collect welfare or send their kids to school or get free medical care. They are "visitors". They go back to their country of origin.

23 posted on 10/20/2010 12:09:37 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

“”Visitors” are not immigrants, legal or otherwise. They don’t intend to stay or overstay their “non-visa visitor status”. They don’t get jobs. They don’t collect welfare or send their kids to school or get free medical care. They are “visitors”. They go back to their country of origin.”

Ok, I see. So, it’s al about the “Intent” of the Illegal Alien?

Therefore, all a “visitor” from Mexico needs to say is that he “intends” to head back to Mexico very soon and law and immigration officials cannot detain him.


24 posted on 10/20/2010 12:14:48 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: greatdefender

This law will get slapped down faster than a Hawaiian bureaucrat getting a request for Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

That being said, it doesn’t surprise me that the liberals are looking for the race angle in this law.

You will never see a liberal mention that both Japan and Singapore are visa waiver countries and neither of those countries are Western European.


25 posted on 10/20/2010 12:17:18 PM PDT by radpolis (Liberals: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy)
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To: trumandogz
Honestly, I have no idea what the requirements are for a Mexican national entering the US. Do they need a visa? Do you know?

I think "illegal" aliens are citizens of countries other than the US who are in the country illegally. When I enter the US, I might be an alien, but I'm not illegal. If I stay more than six months, I become an illegal alien.

26 posted on 10/20/2010 12:26:53 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Former Proud Canadian

Once a person, no matter what country they are from, overstays their visa, they become an illegal alien.


27 posted on 10/20/2010 12:29:36 PM PDT by trumandogz
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To: greatdefender

“Over five million Canadians identified themselves as a member of a visible minority group in the 2006 Census, accounting for 16.2% of the total population.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Visible_minority

A visible minority is a person who is visibly not one of the majority race in a given population.

The term is used as a demographic category by Statistics Canada in connection with that country’s Employment Equity policies. The qualifier “visible” is important in the Canadian context where political divisions were traditionally determined by language (English vs. French) and religion (Catholics vs. Protestants), “invisible” traits. Since the reform of Canada’s immigration laws in the 1960s, immigration has been heaviest from areas other than Europe, thus creating visible minorities. Members of visible minorities are defined by the Canadian Employment Equity Act as “persons, other than Aboriginal people, who are non-Caucasian in race or non-white in colour.”[1] The term is used to address the labor market disadvantage of this group.Contents [hide]
1 Visible minorities in Canada
2 Legislative versus operational definitions
3 Controversies
4 See also
5 References
6 External links

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Visible minorities in Canada

Over five million Canadians identified themselves as a member of a visible minority group in the 2006 Census, accounting for 16.2% of the total population. This was an increase from 2001 where visible minorities accounted for 13.4% of the total population; an increase from 1996 when the proportion was 11.2%; and a major increase over 1991 (9.4%) and 1981 (4.7%). The increase represents a significant shift in Canada’s demographics since the advent of that country’s multiculturalism policies.


Germany:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Germany

In 2005: Total population = 82 million[2]
German citizens = (91%)[2]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Immigration_to_Europe

The European countries with the highest proportion or percentage of non-native residents are small nations or microstates. Andorra is the country in Europe with the highest percentage of immigrants, 77% of the country’s 82,000 inhabitants. Monaco is the second with the highest percentage of immigrants, they make up 70% of the total population of 32,000; and Luxembourg is the third, immigrants are 37% of the total of 480,000; in Liechtenstein they are 35% of the 34,000 people; and in San Marino they comprise 32% of the country’s population of 29,000.

Countries in which immigrants form between 25% and 10% of the population are: Switzerland (25%), Latvia (19%), Estonia (15%), Austria (15%), Croatia (15%), Ukraine (14.7%), Cyprus (14.3%), Ireland (14%), Moldova (13%), Germany (12.3%), Sweden (12%), Belarus (12%), Spain (10.8%, 12.2% in 2009), France (10.2%), and the Netherlands (10%).[3]

The United Kingdom (9%), Greece (8.6%), Russia (8.5%), Slovenia (8.3%), Iceland (7.6%), Norway (7.4%), Portugal (7.2%), Denmark (7.1%) and Belgium (6.9%), each have a proportion of immigrants between 10% and 5% of the total population.

The European countries with the smallest proportion of immigrants as follows are: Italy (4.3%, 8.1% in 2010), Albania (2%), Poland (2%), Bosnia and Herzegovina (1%), Bulgaria (1%) and Romania (0.5%).

Germans of no immigrant background: (81%) 66.7 million[2]
German citizens of immigrant background (including people of partial immigrant background.): (10%)[2]


In perspective adding this clause is a strange form of racism... a Turkish-German holidaymaker could be in serious trouble if a dumbass Florida cop takes a disliking to him during a routine stop... but an ethnic German holidaymaker would walk away with an apology from the cops who are usually hyper sensitive toward tourists who spend money in the local communities.


28 posted on 10/20/2010 12:37:04 PM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: greatdefender

This is dumb and undermines the entire effort. I want Canadians and Europeans carrying their papers too.


29 posted on 10/20/2010 12:57:55 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order)
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To: greatdefender

look for florida to be a conduit for muslims. they need to shyt that angle down.,


30 posted on 10/20/2010 1:08:22 PM PDT by ckilmer (Phi)
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To: trumandogz

Umm, isn’t that what I said???


31 posted on 10/20/2010 1:56:37 PM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: ccmay
Here's a Canadian snowbird profile: mainly retired, 65+, open-toed sandels, black knee-socks, shorts, beer gut, Hawaiian shirt, cigar, Panama Hat, sunglasses, carrying a copy of the Globe & Mail. He's got his CDN Healthcare card (with hologram+photo) and his CDN driver's license (with hologram+photo) in his wallet, his passport is in the hotel safe, and he had his car carrier/trucked down ahead of time with mainly Ontario plates.

Estimated total number of Canadian "snowbirds" (four southern states, a 21+ day stay, and a January-May return criterion) is in the neighborhood of 300-400,000 bodies annually, and dumping $3 - $5000 in that period, each. Um, explain to me, we need to carry more "papers" to DisneyWorld or the beach, because....what? I'm confused. Hey, you want us to take our $2B to Mexico maybe?

Signed,
Snowbird, eh?

32 posted on 10/20/2010 3:52:36 PM PDT by CanaGuy (Go Harper! We still love you!)
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To: trumandogz

the politicians are probably doing it on purpose, so they can go tell the public they did their best to pass legislation that was thrown out.


33 posted on 10/20/2010 3:55:04 PM PDT by MNDude (Ask the Native American's how their "Open Borders" policy worked out for them.)
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To: AdmSmith; Arthur Wildfire! March; Berosus; bigheadfred; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; dervish; ...

Thanks greatdefender.


34 posted on 10/20/2010 8:14:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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