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I agree with Doug. Mark Kirk is playing us and just wait and see if he is elected how he pulls our chains. He'll be the new Jim Jeffords.
Tea Party Candidate Mike Labno for Illinois Senate. He's running against 3 Liberals. He's one Man against the Machine.
http://westsuburbanpatriots.ning.com/forum/topics/tea-party-libertarian-mike


1 posted on 10/18/2010 3:50:14 PM PDT by Maelstorm
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To: Maelstorm

Well, you may be right - I think I know what Mark Kirk is, and what he is NOT. His record on fiscal issues is pretty good, he may as well be Barney Frank when it comes to social issues. But he’s not Alexi, and he does have an R behind his name (the first letter in RINO). So like many I will hold my nose and vote for him, because even the longest journey begins with a single step, and taking “the Obama seat” from the Democrat party will weaken them in IL and Kirk is at least no worse than Alexi.

Do I wish Jack Ryan had kept it zipped? Yeah. I wish we had a better candidate now, too.


2 posted on 10/18/2010 3:55:46 PM PDT by bigbob
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We'd especially have to see how he handles himself during the Democrats' lame-duck session, because Kirk would be seated immediately.

Would he vote with his fellow Republicans to filibuster the Democrats radical agenda, or would he side with the Democrats right away, turning on Republicans right out of the gate?

-PJ

3 posted on 10/18/2010 3:56:16 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Maelstorm

You forgot the part required BY LAW:

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4 posted on 10/18/2010 4:00:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Obama White House=Tammany Hall on the National Mall)
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To: Maelstorm
The inner mental workings of RINOs is not all that complicated. RINOs are opportunist, who believe in nothing, and intend to optimize their personal gain by playing both sides of the street. The only time representing constituents is considered is at election time, and that is for strategic maneuvering only.

Operation RINO Kill (politically speaking, of course) is a necessary prerequisite to Our Republic's restoration, pure and simple.

5 posted on 10/18/2010 4:01:01 PM PDT by J Edgar
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DEFEAT MARK KIRK ! *PING*


6 posted on 10/18/2010 4:02:21 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Amber Lamps !"~~)
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To: Maelstorm

Half a loaf or none? Conservatives trying to starve themselves again. I don’t like Mike Kirk any better than most conservatives but tell me when Illinois is ready to elect a conservative in a statewide race. Better yet, let me know when Chicago slides into the lake.


9 posted on 10/18/2010 4:09:49 PM PDT by azcap (Who is John Galt ? www.conservativeshirts.com)
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To: Maelstorm

Why are we still fighting the primary? Kirk is not the solid conservative we all wish for, but one isn’t likely to be elected in Illinois. His 57% rating from the American Conservative Union means we can count on him more than half the time to vote the right way. Giannolouis has said he will begin a “progressive Senate caucus” if he wins this Senate seat. I daresay that means we’ll be able to count on his vote for conservative causes around 0% of the time. Better to take half a plate of what you want than a full plate of steaming cow pies.

And get real, Labno has no chance. When was the last time a Libertarian candidate won anything? The time for this argument about Kirk was earlier this year. Why give up the 51st seat for Senate control as if his opponent would somehow be so much better for the conservative cause?


11 posted on 10/18/2010 4:13:01 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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Thanks Maelstorm.
13 posted on 10/18/2010 4:13:27 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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To: Maelstorm

I loathe Kirk as much as much as anyone else. That being said anyone working against him at this point is a Dem plant. Yes, I mean you.


24 posted on 10/18/2010 4:32:04 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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Kirk lied about his military record. The guy's a big fat fraud who's probably a closet homo.

You're going to wait a long time to find a candidate who's never told a lie. Kirk did serve and did so honorably. For me I'll credit his military service to his bad boy ledger for having lied about some of the details of that service. It's a shame he felt the need to exaggerate in that way, but in the end he apologized. Can't we allow for repentence?

It's certainly better than Giannoulis claiming he had nothing to do with making loans to mob figures when he was a chief loan officer at that bank, then explaining it all away by saying he didn't know "the full extent of their criminal activities" as if he knew some. Then he went on to lie about what years he even worked for the family bank and also appears to have dodged taxes. Yes, I know you're not advocating for Giannoulis, but the point I'm making is Kirk is guilty of some white lying we all have been guilty of as opposed to lying about frankly being an accesory to criminal mob activity. I think we should be much more troubled by a guy willing to wink at criminal activity just to get some business for his family bank than a guy who let his ego get the best of him. The latter indicates a much deeper degree of character dysfunction to my way of thinking.

38 posted on 10/18/2010 4:54:21 PM PDT by MissesBush (Stay angry--right through November)
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Kirk won the Republican primary fair and square. It’s done. We are pissed that tea partyers are not getting the full party supporting them once they win primaries. I don’t want to do the same when a RINO wins the primary, especially when said RINO could be the difference between the Republicans taking over the Senate or not.

That being said, Kirk knows that tea partyers will keep their eyes on him, and they have shown they have no problem defeating a sitting senator during a primary. For the first time RINOs will have to protect their right flank.

Could you imagine if the Senate stays in Democrat hands the way the media will portray election day? Obama the come back kid!


39 posted on 10/18/2010 4:55:15 PM PDT by winner3000
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consider how the GOP winning both the House and Senate can be expected to assist Obama with reelection in 2012. He’ll now have a foil to campaign against for two years.

Winning the House is absolutely vital. It is imperative that as much conservative input as possible goes into controlling the purse strings of the nation, and I mean right now.

69 posted on 10/18/2010 6:03:26 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("I'd rather lose fighting for the right cause than win fighting for the wrong cause." - Jim DeMint)
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Mark Kirk will not be getting my vote. I will vote libertarian. I would vote for him if he would at least move to the center like Guiliani did when he ran for President. Instead, I recently saw an ad touting him as “Mr. Independent” because he supported using are tax dollars to fund stem cell research and because he supported outlawing candy cigarettes. Sorry, but I could care less if we lose a vote in the Senate.


70 posted on 10/18/2010 6:42:39 PM PDT by Fast Ed97 (Is it bad when you start to miss the Clinton years?)
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To: Maelstorm

Last week I thought I read that true conservatives were supposed to support Randall C. Stufflebeam. Of course, he’s a write-in candidate, and I know nothing about him.

But he seems to be polling about as good as Labno.


75 posted on 10/18/2010 8:19:54 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Maelstorm

This is all pointless. The Dem will win because this is the most fraudulent election in living memory, especially in Chicago.


88 posted on 10/19/2010 4:02:03 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (We conservatives will always lose elections as long as we allow the MSM to choose our candidates.)
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