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To: SwedeBoy2
Petraeus is a Moron.

I don't think there are many who would agree with that statement.

-PJ

94 posted on 09/07/2010 8:54:12 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too ("Comprehensive" reform bills only end up as incomprehensible messes.)
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To: Political Junkie Too

Petraeus is just saying what the Usurper-In-Chief is telling him to say.


96 posted on 09/07/2010 8:55:44 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Political Junkie Too

“”Petraeus is a Moron.”
I don’t think there are many who would agree with that statement.”

Read some History about Afghanistan.

As an aside: It really cracked me up when some of the guantanamo detainees were complaining that the Air Conditioning was set too high and that amounted to torture.

Do you know what it’s like in the Mountains of Afghanistan?
It’s a pretty inhospitable place.


100 posted on 09/07/2010 9:06:22 PM PDT by SwedeBoy2
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I've been thinking about how this relates to similar issues. It boils down to people being a$$holes.

Back in the 70's, the Illinois Nazis wanted to parade around in their snappy uniforms and bulbous helmets. Problem was, they wanted to march in Skokie, a mostly Jewish neighborhood that had a lot of Holocaust survivors. They ended up marching somewhere else, but not before taking it to court and getting the "right" to do it.

More recently, the gays in Calfornia have taken the prop. 8 thing to court. They want to be "married," even though they enjoy the benefits of marriage without the title "Marriage." They want to be called married, but in doing so, they alienate a lot of people who might support their quest for a relational title if it wasn't called marriage. We also have the quest to build a mosque on Ground Zero. Even though it was a group of Muslims who piloted the planes that destroyed the WTC and killed 3,000 Americans, some people don't see anything wrong with it. As another example, look at the Orangemen in Northern Ireland. Every summer these jaspers dress up in their orange sashes and march through a Catholic neighborhood to honor some battle or another that happened ages ago, yet still needs to have Catholic faces rubbed in it.

Everyone has something that is special, that is, for lack of a better word, "holy." For some, it is the flag. (I know I am not alone when I see loathsome persons burning it, but I restrain myself from getting out the Louisville Slugger and doing an Al Capone on them.) For others, it is NASCAR: "Don't you be dissin' my main man Jeff Gordon!" In the movie "The Commitments," Colm Meany's character shouts, "Elvis is GOD!" when a group sings that he was "a cajun."

Point is, everyone and every group has their holy things. Problem is, in a pluralistic, allegedly tolerant society, that holy must be respected on all fronts. Sure, I might have the right to totally talk trash about, say, the Kennedys (especially that Ted person), but if I'm around people who honestly dig on the whole "Camelot" thing, I will silently vomit into my mouth a little, smile, and change the subject. It's called respect.

Don't get me wrong. I hate Islam. It is an insult to free people everywhere, and its claims about the person of Jesus and that they worship the same god as the Jews are two of the biggest whoppers I've ever heard.

But given that there are enough idiots around the world who would use this as an opportunity to attack Americans or Christians, I don't think burning the Koran in public is a good idea. All it takes is some imam somewhere with a Youtube account, and morons everywhere will see Pastor D'Zaster making a big deal out of burning their holy book. They'd froth at the mouth, go out and blow themselves up, and think they've struck a blow for Islam.

I don't want to give them the sastisfaction. I don't want to give them any opportunity to think they're serving their "god" by doing anything against this. Instead, we should continue to use humor to drag them down. We should continually point out that the Jesus in the Bible can really save them, and that the Jesus of the K'ran is, well, a useless joke that can't save anybody. Just like the rest of their religion. And we should do it covertly, covering the web with artistic examples of truth and mockery, so that they can't go out and do anything against any one person or group. Let 'em stew, as we laugh at them, until they grow tired of gnawing on their hatred and come to the Risen Lord of love, life, and laughter.

And as for the mosque-builders, the gays, and others whose behaviors mirror those of the Nazis, let us loudly point out to them the glaring lack of tolerance they have, using their own words against them, to make them realize that what we consider holy is not negotiable. Argue, and make them see that they should give up trying to rub on us their own shortcomings, because we won't put up with it.

Tolerance is to two-way street. I'd like to see someone give tolerance and respect to someone else's "holy" for a change.

105 posted on 09/07/2010 9:38:43 PM PDT by Othniel (Meddlng in human affairs for over 1/20th of a millennium.......)
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