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To: allmendream

Your argument should be with the scientist at:

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v463/n7280/full/nature08700.html

The Nature paper expressed the mismatch between this data and standard evolutionary interpretations in a more muted tone: “Indeed, at 6 million years of separation, the difference in MSY gene content in chimpanzee and human is more comparable to the difference in autosomal gene content in chicken and human, at 310 million years of separation.”1 Autosomes are the chromosomes other than the X and Y.

So, the human Y chromosome looks just as different from a chimp’s as the other human chromosomes do from a chicken’s. And to explain where all these differences between humans and chimps came from, believers in big-picture evolution are forced to invent stories of rapid wholesale rearrangements, and rapid generation of both new gene-containing and regulatory DNA.

God made man and all life. That is my story, you and others can invent your own. Oh, you have, amoeba to man in a few billion years or whatever.


27 posted on 08/06/2010 5:24:43 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Doulos1

Oh, sorry, I didn’t realize you were merely a troll, and that I was wasting my time.


31 posted on 08/06/2010 5:28:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv ("Fools learn from experience. I prefer to learn from the experience of others." -- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Doulos1
The Y chromosome is the smallest and only present in half the human population. Based upon it being that much more different, you are actually going to support the claim that humans and chickens are as close in DNA as a human and a chimpanzee? Honestly?

The rate of Y chromosome evolution is much higher than the rest of the genome, and if most creationists knew any actual science, they would know that - but usually they don't.

The more educated someone is the less likely they are to be a creationist. Especially if they are educated in science. Creationists sources are aware of this and play to their audience.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/07/090716201127.htm

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20551442

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16299764

“The absence of homologous recombination between the X and the Y chromosome leads to gradual degeneration of various Y chromosome genes on an evolutionary timescale. The absence of recombination, however, also favors the accumulation of transposable elements on the Y chromosome during its evolution, as seen with both Drosophila and mammalian Y chromosomes. Alongside these processes, the acquisition and amplification of autosomal male benefit genes occur.”

40 posted on 08/06/2010 7:31:17 PM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: Doulos1
No, the argument is with a troll who deliberately misrepresents a perfectly sound scientific article to claim that it says what it does not say, i.e. you.

What you have done is academic fraud. Were you a practicing scientist, you could have your research grants revoked, future eligibility denied and have your tenure withdrawn (yes, you can lose tenure - when you engage in the kind of sleazy tactics you just attempted to resort to.)

In brief, the abstract of the article to which you refer makes none of the extravagant claims that you attempt to make it make.

49 posted on 08/07/2010 6:49:05 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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