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To: arrogantsob
Again, I don't pretend to know what a man would have done in an event that happened 35 years after his death. But I can say with certainty that Jefferson supported and practiced nullification and, if the grievance was significant enough, believed in a right of separation.

Martin's hatred of Jefferson was anything but rational, regardless of what he thought about Jefferson personally (come to think of it, there seem to be tinges of irrationality in your own insult-laden position on Jefferson. Why is that?). Martin's dislike stemmed almost entirely from a silly personal dispute between the two men after Jefferson published a pamphlet that insulted Martin's late father-in-law over complicity in an Indian massacre on the frontier in the 1770's. He became a Federalist in repudiation of Jefferson as a result, but was at odds with virtually all of the Federalist platform. Despite his party label, he then politically aligned himself with the Aaron Burr faction of the Jeffersonians and spent the remainder of his career at odds with the Federalists (including Marshall, who he argued against as the attorney general for Maryland in McCulloch v. Maryland). had made about one of Martin's wife's relatives.

533 posted on 08/11/2010 1:53:04 PM PDT by conimbricenses (Red means run son, numbers add up to nothing.)
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To: conimbricenses

Jefferson’s reputation with me has suffered from my study of the period and the disclosure of what he truly was about. The more I learn of his policies and methods the less respect I have for the man. Virtually his entire facade is a fraud. A huge hypocrite who does not hesitate to use the most underhanded methods to attain power.

One cannot go by his words which are all honey and cream but must look to his actions. His words about “secession” or “separation” are one thing his actions, say, wrt Aaron Burr’s trial for Treason quit another.

Burr, another typical RAT, became the object of a Jefferson vendetta which spared no means, fair or foul, legal or illegal to bring him to trial. He whipped up the mob to demand Burr’s head even going so far as to announce him guilty prior to trial. Only Marshall’s standing in the path of legalized murder stopped a disgrace on the presidency.

Your last sentence is missing something.


611 posted on 08/17/2010 7:22:51 PM PDT by arrogantsob
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