[Old Teufel Hunden]

"In practice, five states that permitted some degree of suffrage for free property owning black males at the time of independence"

So then you agree that your statement about no blacks being allowed to vote in the north was incorrect. Thanks for making my point.

[conimbricenses]

Your reading comprehension is suffering. I stated "women and blacks generally could not vote in the northern states" at the outset of the Civil War. You have yet to prove otherwise.