[central_va]

As I've stated many times, the founders felt that a people had a right to break free and form a new government when the existing government was becomming too oppressive. I ask you, what act did the Lincoln administration do in it's first month that was so oppressive as to the people needing to break free? The only thing the Republican party was for was not extending slavery to new states and territories. Was that so oppressive to the Southern states?

I'll ask you the question in reverse, what was it about South Carolina and the South in general becoming an independent sovereign nation that was so abhorrent to the North?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

How come you get to ask all the questions and when they’re answered you go onto the next question? Why is it that you make an accusation about how the South wanted to just leave and Lincoln started a war, are proven wrong about it and then go onto the next question?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"I'll ask you the question in reverse, what was it about South Carolina and the South in general becoming an independent sovereign nation that was so abhorrent to the North?"

Allow me to use Socrates favorite device.

Would it be okay if only half of South Carolina wanted to break off?

Would it be okay today if all of the illegals (who probably outnumber the legals) down in the southern part of Arizona decided they wanted to break off and either form their own state or join Mexico?

Would it be okay if the whole state of Texas today wanted to break off and join Mexico?

Can one party in a legally binding contract dissolve the contract, without the consent of the other party and have no consequences fall upon them?

[Old Teufel Hunden]

"I'll ask you the question in reverse, what was it about South Carolina and the South in general becoming an independent sovereign nation that was so abhorrent to the North?"

One last question I would like to ask you. If this was something that all of the people of South Carolina wanted, why didn't they conduct a statewide vote to include all of the people, to include those enslaved by their oppressors in South Carolina?