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To: Old Teufel Hunden; All
All the southern states signed onto it. Where in this legal document called the constitution was any state given the right to secede?

If secession was illegal would it surprise if the US Senate voted on legislation making it illegal? Why would they vote on something that was already codified?

Original source: US Senate records: Look at the vote on Article 8 Yeas 18 nays 28, VOTED DOWN!

22 posted on 08/05/2010 6:33:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va
"If secession was illegal would it surprise if the US Senate voted on legislation making it illegal?"

That Senate journal you put forward is dated 1861. Right in the middle of the secession crisis. Can you show me where the founders thought that states had the power to secede?
46 posted on 08/05/2010 6:51:48 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: central_va

Nice try but it does not provide cover for secession.
Without the discussion of WHY voters voted the way they did the excerpt is useless. You Defenders of the Indefensible are always trying to pull stunts like that to “prove” your point. Almost always when your quotes are analyzed in content they wind up proving the opposite to what you want.

Then the next thread even after being shown to be inappropriate the same quote will be used as though the prior discussion never took place.


131 posted on 08/05/2010 8:40:41 AM PDT by arrogantsob
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To: central_va

Thank you for posting that.


198 posted on 08/05/2010 11:22:06 AM PDT by kalee (The offences we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: central_va
If secession was illegal would it surprise if the US Senate voted on legislation making it illegal?

Looks like a majority of Senators decided that it wasn't needed.

369 posted on 08/06/2010 2:31:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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