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Train travel is making a comeback
Rochester Post-Bulletin (Minn) ^ | Thursday, July 22, 2010 | Greg Sellnow

Posted on 07/22/2010 6:10:01 AM PDT by Willie Green

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To: Thurston_Howell_III; SortaBichy; Delmont
Road trip! Here's where we stayed in Holbrook, AZ the other night!


41 posted on 07/23/2010 2:56:28 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It's not the Obama Administration....it's the "Obama Regime".)
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To: Willie Green
"Trains take you from where you ain't, to where you don't want to be." Mark Twain
42 posted on 07/23/2010 3:05:00 AM PDT by meadsjn (Sarah 2012, or sooner)
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To: meadsjn

LOL!


43 posted on 07/23/2010 3:22:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Average gas cost for 1000 mile trip in 1965 (constant dollars) = $131.45.
Average gas cost for 1000 mile trip today ($2.75) = $138.89.
Not much difference.

But like I said, the biggest difference is that Americans are simply squeezing into smaller cars.
In 1965 most Baby Boomers were still living at home.
I myself turned 13 that year.
Average family size was larger than today.
And the average family car was also much larger and more spacious to accomodate the larger families.
Back then, a 1000 mile family trip on a newly constructed, uncongested Interstate could be made in comfort. (nobody had ever heard of "road rage" back then)
Nowadays, that same 1000 mile family trip on our congested highways in smaller, cramped vehicles would be a PITA.

BIG difference.

44 posted on 07/23/2010 5:30:26 AM PDT by Willie Green (Save Money: Build High-Speed Rail & Maglev and help permanently ground Air Force One!!!)
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To: Sherman Logan

1000 / 32 mpg = 31.25 gallons

31.25 * 2.50 per gallon = $78.13.

That’s my fuel cost for a 1000 mile trip. And I can drive 75-80 mph all day, carry my rifle, sidearm, and cash with me. I can stop wherever I want. I can leave when I want to leave. I can take any detour I wish. And I don’t need to rent a vehicle at my destination city.

It’s obvious that people prefer freedom of travel to being shuffled into boxcars with windows to travel on a set (late) schedule to predetermined, unmovable destinations at an enormous cost.


45 posted on 07/23/2010 5:48:27 AM PDT by meyer (Big government is the enemy of freedom.)
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To: ExTxMarine; KevinDavis; narses; Willie Green; meadsjn
Willie calling people bigot is usually what liberals do.

When a Progressive/Marxist runs out of valid arguments, they pull the race card and call their opponent a bigot. They expect others to go on the defensive.

Willie hasn't figured out that this generally does not work here. Ask Willie for his opinion of Thomas Sowell.

46 posted on 07/23/2010 8:40:45 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Willie Green
And the average family car was also much larger and more spacious to accomodate the larger families.

I'm not sure that's true.

While cars are on average smaller, SUVs and minivans are a huge percentage of the fleet and almost did not exist 40 years ago. Few cars were even air conditioned back then.

I would contend a 1000 mile trip in today's average vehicle is much more physically comforbable than the same trip 40 years ago.

Traffic, you probably have a point. Particularly with regard to trucks.

47 posted on 07/23/2010 3:49:37 PM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan
While cars are on average smaller, SUVs and minivans are a huge percentage of the fleet and almost did not exist 40 years ago.

Behold the classic, full-size American STATION WAGON:

This one happens to be a '65~'68 Ford Country Squire.
As a full size station wagon it could carry 8 passengers: The front and rear bench seats could each accommodate 3 adults. Then the rear "cargo" compartment had fold down seats that could provide room for two more.

You don't see many station wagons today.
But they were THE suburban family car of the '50s and '60s before SUVs and minivans.

48 posted on 07/23/2010 5:11:21 PM PDT by Willie Green (Save Money: Build High-Speed Rail & Maglev and help permanently ground Air Force One!!!)
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To: Willie Green
And the BEST station wagon of all:....The American Family Truckster. Photobucket
49 posted on 07/23/2010 5:19:09 PM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Willie Green

Neighbors had one. In those pre-seatbelt days at least 10 kids fit in the back.


50 posted on 07/23/2010 5:29:43 PM PDT by Chickensoup (The Acting President....is an incompetent puppet of Soros.)
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Neighbors had one. In those pre-seatbelt days at least 10 kids fit in the back.
Yeah.. with two of them, you could pretty much take the entire Little League team to the Dairy Queen after the game... and that included hauling all the bats, balls, gloves, helmets and substitute kids. LOL!
51 posted on 07/23/2010 5:44:41 PM PDT by Willie Green (Save Money: Build High-Speed Rail & Maglev and help permanently ground Air Force One!!!)
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To: Sherman Logan; Willie Green

RE: your post 27. Thanks, SL. I linked to this thread from another so am kind of late to the party. After reading it, wanted to ask WG what the effect of inflation and wages was on the cost of a gallon of gasoline in the years since it was $.32/gal. You saved me the trouble, again, thanks. As someone upthread said, paraphrasing, rail is something urbanites want everyone else to pay for.


52 posted on 07/23/2010 9:56:03 PM PDT by theymakemesick (Full of hatred for those that disagree, liberal democrats are the most intolerant bigots on Earth)
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To: theymakemesick; Sherman Logan; Willie Green
As someone upthread said, paraphrasing, rail is something urbanites want everyone else to pay for.

Can anything taste as sweet as Other People's Money (OPM)?

Of course, since we're intolerant of Willie's desire to steal our hard earned capital to fund his delusional train fetish, he thinks were bigots.

Hey Willie, aren't you gonna call us bigots? That's what liberals do when they can't argue the merits of the issue. Maybe you'll call theymakemesick a newby. After all, he signed up in '03 and you're part of the class of '98. You gotta admit, when you stoop to sign up dates to validate your argument, you're in pretty sad shape!

53 posted on 07/23/2010 10:04:22 PM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Saundra Duffy

I rode from the West Coast to the Midwest and back three weeks ago, on the train. Had a sleeper. Loved it. Went to sleep with the sunset and woke up to see the sun come up the next morning. It was more pleasant than flying or driving. Good food, too. So much of life seems to be hurried...this is a step in a better direction.


54 posted on 07/24/2010 12:17:51 AM PDT by blackd77
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To: theymakemesick
After reading it, wanted to ask WG what the effect of inflation and wages was on the cost of a gallon of gasoline in the years since it was $.32/gal. You saved me the trouble, again, thanks.

You have that backwards.
Rising fuel costs have adversely affected the cost of most everything else in our society.
When gasoline cost 32¢ per gallon, we were living in an era when a single wage earner could raise a family of four in the suburbs, and still set aside enough savings for retirement and send the kids off to college.
Nowadays, it takes a multi-family income to achieve the same standard of living, and ironically, multi-vehicle families who consume more gasoline than the average family of the '60s.

As someone upthread said, paraphrasing, rail is something urbanites want everyone else to pay for.

Are you suggesting that urbanites don't pay taxes like the rest of us???
Millions of hardworking, taxpaying Americans from all walks of life use passenger rail systems to commute back-and-forth to work everyday.
I sincerely hope that you're not among the shameful bigots who utilize "urbanite" and other "code words" to conjure up negative stereotypes of inner city residents.

55 posted on 07/24/2010 6:32:59 AM PDT by Willie Green (Save Money: Build High-Speed Rail & Maglev and help permanently ground Air Force One!!!)
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I sincerely hope that you're not among the shameful bigots who utilize "urbanite" and other "code words" to conjure up negative stereotypes of inner city residents.

Jeez Wille, Alinsky's Rules for Radicals clearly states that the tactic that drags on is a drag.

Accusing real conservatives of bigotry and racism doesn't work anymore. Go peddle your guilt-trip elsewhere.

56 posted on 07/24/2010 6:58:10 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: Grizzled Bear
Accusing real conservatives of bigotry and racism doesn't work anymore. Go peddle your guilt-trip elsewhere.

If you think that JimRob is going to allow an obsessive/compulsive stalker like you to start posting articles from VDARE, you are sadly mistaken.

57 posted on 07/24/2010 7:27:02 AM PDT by Willie Green (Save Money: Build High-Speed Rail & Maglev and help permanently ground Air Force One!!!)
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To: Willie Green; theymakemesick; Sherman Logan; KevinDavis; narses; darkwing104
If you think that JimRob is going to allow an obsessive/compulsive stalker like you to start posting articles from VDARE, you are sadly mistaken.

"VDARE?"

What the heck is "VDARE?"

Vocational Diagnosis and Assessment of Residual Employability?

Vodka Drinking Analysts Rethinking Entropy?

I've never posted anything that relates to that acronym, Willie. You got to help me out here; what exactly is "VDARE?"

Wait a minute, didn't Godzilla fight VDARE on "Monster Island?" Cheesy movies are no reason for falsely accusing fellow FReepers of Bigotry, Willie. You should know better than that; afterall, you've been on FR since it's birth. You've got no excuses and therefore should hold yourself to a higher standard. What kind of example are you setting for us newbies? For shame, Willie!

58 posted on 07/24/2010 8:01:55 AM PDT by Grizzled Bear (Does not play well with others)
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To: ErnBatavia

I got one it looks a little better than this one and it has a 505 big block Cadillac engine that is built to the gills runs like no other car I have ever owned only bad point is it gets less than4 miles to the gallon. Mine is a 2 door so a little more collectible.
What is the rusty top one is that a Hudson ? I love old cars doesn’t matter what make or model.


59 posted on 07/24/2010 8:11:15 AM PDT by Lees Swrd ("Arms discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe and preserve order in the world as well")
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To: Grizzled Bear
"VDARE?"
What the heck is "VDARE?"
Vocational Diagnosis and Assessment of Residual Employability?
Vodka Drinking Analysts Rethinking Entropy?
I've never posted anything that relates to that acronym,
Willie. You got to help me out here; what exactly is "VDARE?

Click here, NOOBIE.

60 posted on 07/24/2010 8:15:01 AM PDT by Willie Green (Save Money: Build High-Speed Rail & Maglev and help permanently ground Air Force One!!!)
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