China's Wars Driven by Climate

You get yourself classified "Turkic" by, lo and behold, speaking a Turkic language. You get classified as a Finn by living in Finland, but you get yourself classified as a Sa'ami by speaking any one of 11 extant Sa'ami languages ~ except that now that we know there are genetic markers for "Sa'ami"ness, that'll be changing.

One well-known Turkic speaking group called Yakuts, or Sakha, have a Sa'ami "x-factor" genetic marker (and some other characteristics). These are the folks in the background of the Japanese ruling class as well. Otherwise they are identifiably Chinese but they herd cattle ~ unlike every other Turkic or Siberian group.

There were, for the most part, no Indo-European or Finno-Ughric speaking people in Scandinavia 5,000 years ago!

Here’s my fearless prediction: China’s next few wars will be against their neighbors and will be driven by SEX.

The ‘one child per family’ is producing an abnormal demographic profile in China. Fewer women than normal.

The reason is that in a traditional culture that values boys higher than girls, the policy has resulted in aborting femaale children as families choose to have male babies instead of ‘worthless’ girls.

When the lack of women prevents many men from finding wives to start families or sexual gratification, it will create a tinderbox in a culture that reveres the family and having a family is an obligation to one’s ancestors.

China already has the largest standing army in the world. Add that to a lack of wives/women for sex and family and it is not inconceivable (pun intended) that the army will one day cross borders with an undeclared goal of stealing women from their neighbors.

Note to China’s Poliburo: It’s not wise to thwart Mother Nature.

Apparently the original speakers of Turkic languages were Mongoloid, although the languages were spread into mixed peoples, or even non-Mongoloid populations, like that of modern Turkey. However, there is no evidence that the non-Saami Finns ever spoke Turkic, or were Mongoloid. Ditto for the Magyars, although they were accompanied by some Turkic tribes. The Bulgars were probably Turkic, but the present population of Bulgaria is a mix of Slavs (the language is Slavic) and indigenous ancient local people, apparently.

It's very confusing the way a language can be imposed on a preexisting population which once spoke a completely different tongue. Some studies show that the genetic makeup of the British people has not changed much in several thousand years, although first Celtic, then Germanic, was imposed as the prevailing language by Continental invaders. Then there are other studies showing that the Anglo-Saxons committed ethnic cleansing on the preexisting population.

There is also a theory that ALL the Turkic group languages derive from Sa'ami ~ and not the other way around.

BTW, the Mongol penetration of much of Scandinavia was pretty limited ~ they collected taxes and such (expensive furs and amber). At the same time there are all those folks around who have Type B blood eh!

What I think happened to the folks who invaded and conquered what we call Hungary (or Estonia) is they simply got genetically swamped. When they invaded they were able to outnumber the natives ~ which is why they were then able to maintain a long term presence. Numerous other Mongol (and other Eastern) groups came after them. Still, they improved local economic conditions so well they attracted Slavs and Germans to the area. In the end populations that started out speaking any number of Indo-European languages became Hungarian and Estonian speakers.

Give you an idea how this happens, I was looking up the genealogy of a French relative and found I could easily run it ALL THE WAY BACK to the 800s to a couple of Magyars named Álmos and Arpad.

Worth noting that EVERY royal house of Europe for the last 500 years has these two guys as their ancestors ~ and not a one of them look all that Asian!

Found a site that gives you a different "slant" on the various theories regarding the origins of the Hungarians. Check: http://www.hunmagyar.org/tor/index.html Lots of neat stuff there.

One that intrigued me was the Hungarian claim that people of their cultural identity/ethnicity were the first permanent settlers of the Carpathian Basin.

Check that, the "Carpathian Basin" ~ although the Carpathian Mountains actually had Sa'ami language speakers right up to the Middle Ages. So, whatever is found in the mountains the Hungarians are right up to date in admitting that if it looks Sa'ami, it's Sa'ami and not Hungarian.

You have to be careful in reading the material about Sa'ami at any point in time ~ they were until just a few years ago thought to be part of a common genetic and linguistic pool of Finno-Ughric peoples who divided from their Finno-Altaic relatives in Asia as recently as 3,000 years ago. DNA tests demonstrated the Finno-Ughric have no relationship at all to the Sa'ami within the last 10,000 years (except maybe the Skolt with whom they share some ancestry among the natives in Latvia).

Many of the quick references in Wiki still reflect the Pre DNA test thinking. If you find yourself reading a reference to Finno-Ughric people in the Carpathian mountains, they are really talking about the Sa'ami, not the Finns.

Now, for a relevant point. Carpathia (the area in the vicinity of the mountains of the same name) covers parts of several countries. In the relatively recent past the Czar of Russia obtained control of most of the area and brought his own military forces and management team to the area. I think that is about 1806 or so ~ the Swedes had just lost a war to the Russians, and had to sign over Finland to the Czar among other places. Up to that time this was pretty much under the influence if not control of the former Swedish Empire.

I didn't know these Sa'ami were there, but I've been watching closely for the departure of large numbers of Sa'ami from Finland at about that time in history. Lo and behold some let, but not all by far. On the other hand, Sa'ami language pockets are not reported in the Carpathian mountains after the Russian takeover. Many Sa'ami from UNKNOWN PLACES show up on the American frontier by 1810/12. I'd presumed they all left from Finland and Norway to escape a major famine, but apparently a bunch left from Carpathia ~ speaking a dialect of Skolt Sa'ami (spoken by highlands people in the Eastern Sapmai who herd reindeer in Finland and Russia, but mined gold, etc. in the Carpathians). That particular language was the one I reported as having just expired (above).

Fellow I worked with had a fascinating genealogy. His 5 times Great Grandfather had been among the Cossacks brought from Russia by the Czar to take over the Carpathians!

His Grandchildren all ended up in America digging coal in Pennsylvania.

Oooh, “driven by sex”... but yeah, I agree, and I don’t think those will be external to China’s borders, although I used to very much think otherwise. There will also be a lot more emigration from China, some of which has in fact been sponsored by the regime, into places like Africa, Siberia, Europe, Iran, and Pakistan.

Some people living under the imperialist regime of Beijing have been hiding their multi-child families via various means, while the law-abiding (enslaved) victims of that regime have been skewing the population toward (as you said) more sons.

The one-child policy has been around in China for nearly 40 years, which means, starting in maybe 20 years there will be loads of men approaching or over 60 who were never able to marry and have a family; these men will be sole caretakers of one or both of their parents, which probably will wind up requiring massive guest labor for caregiving, with or without nursing home construction.

Given that up to half of the children born in China (there’s a ratio of perhaps 1:4) since 1972 will not have children, we can expect to see the Chinese population begin to decline — sharply — starting around 2042. Unless the birth limit is repealed, that demographic will snowball into the future, circa 20 years apart, demonstrating the Paradox of Zeno really works :’) More than half of the population in China (and the world, actually) today, will be deceased by 2042, anyway; Chinese people aged 38 today will be 70 in 2042 and nearly 100 percent of them will be gone by 2052. The next extinction wave will commence in 2062, the following one in 2082, and another in 2102.

If we take the population of China to be about 1 billion now, in 2042 the population will be perhaps 500 million (in reality, I believe it will be even lower); in 2062 the population will be 250 million, by 2102 125 million.

This of course doesn’t figure in the non-Chinese guest worker population which decides to stay and make lives for themselves in China.

During that same period, the population of the United States will grow to somewhere north of one billion, and could be as high as three billion. There, that should bring the closet fans of “The Population Bomb” out of the woodwork. :’)

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