Posted on 07/12/2010 9:03:49 PM PDT by jwb0581
Tebow was born in the Philippines to American citizen parents who were overseas on a mission trip.
Would he be eligible to serve as President?
Yes, I’m aware of all that. I was quoting the Foreign Affairs manual.
He’ll be too busy winning Denver multiple Super Bowl rings to be interested in being President (grin).
My son born in England of American Parents holds an American Passport and an English Passport. I do not think he can be the President or Vice President of the United States>
No doubt. At least they do say that the CONSTITUTIONAL “natural born” citizenship status of children born abroad to American Citizens has yet to be tested in court. That’s quite true, and if it is ever tested and resolved through the courts, it won’t be the citizenship statute they will be relying on - I hope.
Why, is he running? :^)
And wasn’t McCain’s father in the military at that time? I doubt that all the many children born to service members overseas are all ineligible to be president.
And those who agree with this interpretation are said to have assumed the "missionary position".
Again, this has never been litigated, so no one can be absolute with respect to how the Court would rule. But, unless those children are born within the confines of the military base, then the principle of jus soli would not apply. If jus soli would not apply, and jus soli is held to be a critical element to qualify as NBC, then those born off-base would not be NBC.
Natural born citizenship is attained ONLY by Jus Sanguinis( birth to American citizens). Citizenship can be obtained by jus soli and jus sanguinis. I suggest that you reread the Scalia statement , he posed it as a question, not as a statement. In the original intent of the Constitution (1790) that citizenship be based on the citizenship of the parents regardless of place of birth. Children born overseas to AMERICAN parents are considered Natural Born citizens by the Constitution. If both of Tebrows parents were U.S. citizens ,then he is a Natural Born citizen. Obama is not egibile to be President because only one parents was a U.S. citizen and he has dual citizenship.
Yes
Sheesh, let the kid at least play some football for a couple decades ok?
Tell you what, let's save this thread in our favorites and return to it in say 2030 ok?
I suggest you reread the Scalia statement, and this time read it in the context in which it was posed. It is, quite clearly, a rhetorical question posed to advance his own viewpoint. He says to the advocate...
"It requires jus soli, doesn’t it?"
Scalia isn't questioning him because he doesn't know the answer. He's questioning him because he's trying to make a point. Have you never listened to oral arguments before the Supreme Court?
Scalia's contention that above all else, to qualify as a natural-born citizen, one must be born on sovereign US soil - jus soli. That's not to say that just birth on US soil qualifies one as a NBC, but that is a unconditional requisite, nonetheless.
You are correct , but those who oppose jus sanginius as a requirement for a Natural born citizen are misusing Scalis “statement” as proof that only jus soli is required to be a natural born citizen. Scalia is one of the more intelligent justices, while I don’t always agree with him , I do respect him.
You are correct , but those who oppose jus sanginius as a requirement for a Natural born citizen are misusing Scalis “statement” as proof that only jus soli is required to be a natural born citizen. Scalia is one of the more intelligent justices, while I don’t always agree with him , I do respect him.
“the children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond Sea, or out of the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural born Citizens”.
This is the wording in the Naturalization Act of 1790. This clarification was probably the result of discussions on clarification regarding the constitutional requirement for eligibility for President and Vice President.
Our founders were great visionaries not like our knee jerkers of today. It appears they thought it absurd that anyone would even consider allowing a foreigner or child of a foreigner to be the President of the Nation.
A natural born citizen derives his citizenship naturally because both of his parents are citizens at the time of his birth. No 14th amendment, naturalization, or anything else is required for citizenship, thus he is a natural born citizen. It is derived from the nature of the citizenship of the parents, plural. It was passed to him by nature of his birth to his citizen parents no matter where it may have taken place.
The intent of founding fathers is simple and clear ,but facts are something liberals have a problem dealing with, when it does not conform to their agenda.
It depends entirely on which party he represents.
What makes you believe there will ever be another Presidential election in America?
I see your point is well made and understood. Well said !!
According if he is a Democrat or Republican.
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